EVE General Discussion

I've got a song for you,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSQixvNNsyw

But I'll take out the most important quote for you.



You may ask, how does that apply here? Well, those 2 lines perfectly describe this community. People have long lists of undefined wants that CCP should work on, however whenever CCP starts trying to implement one they get an inevitable backlash. For any feature, there is a group that opposes it for some reason. And, for some features, people don't really know what they want, they just know that they want it now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Azz-6oT08c

For example, you talk about how you want better options, however you are unable to clearly articulate the alternative you have in mind. In many ways, you are behaving exactly like Rainbow Dash saying that you just want it to be cooler, but being unable to explain how to make it cooler or what is uncool about it.

Rarity, of course, plays the role of CCP here trying to balance the sea of feedback and ideas from her customers in order to make something they will enjoy and, in this episode, giving them exactly what they want doesn't work out so well.

Simply put, CCP is, like Rarity, a professional. Someone who has been in the business a long time and knows what a good idea and a bad idea sound like. CCP is going to balance player feedback with their own ideas and experience to create a solution that doesn't please everyone, but gets the job done.

CCP is doing a controlled experiment to gauge interest using the market, because that is the best way to do it. Since most people don't really know what they want until they see it, it's the only good way of determining if this idea is worth developing further.

But, they want their ships to look gay like their little character pictures.

Would that not be more sandboxy than the current choose regular or non-regular? If we were allowed to freely paint our ships, would that not create more 'content' by allowing us to blow up ships that offend our sense of style?

The bad side of free coloring for CCP would be two fold; first is that CCP might not get as many RL iskies as they now get. Second is that freely made custom skins we might get to see trademarked (or other) images on EVE ships and that might get CCP to real trouble. Both of those can be circumvented though; first by having paints or paint-formula BPCs sold in Nexus store. Second by not allowing images, but only color-sets to the ships ("I use black, white and red, so I buy BPCs for those paints, and I choose flame-pattern.")

Well, there is actually a third bad side too; CCP would actually need to code something new to allow that kind of color use. With the current way they can rely on old code and don't have to think. We would not want to force them to think/work, do we? ;)

Some have voiced concern that the current system will create a mess on the ship Market, but CCP can probably fix that relatively easily by adding a hide "custom"-skin option. CCP, please add it soon. (Sorry, I cannot call current solution custom skins. They are premade skins after all, not custom.)

Honestly, I think it would be too big work for the result and I happen to think that even the current way has been too cumbersome. If it takes the artist team several days to create a new paint job for a single ship, their time would be better spent elsewhere. (And no, I don't know how long it takes them to create a single skin, but we have 8 skins to choose from so it cannot be too quick process, can it?)

Stop giving CCP advice to make new slot for your paintbrush. Skin, paint goes on the hull, not in some slot.

Paint system should allow you to make customizations in the same way as you can do with your character in game. And after repackage it should be scraped, if you are destroyed it should be scraped. If you would like to sell with paint on the hull - use contracts. This should work like that.

It's what I was hoping for too, but the blueprints are acceptable as well... apart from not being able to apply it to already assembled and rigged ship which is a minor issue.

The thing is, if a library of shades was introduced more players will play with it and choose to invest some $$$ for their desired skin. If only blueprints are available, then some players (me included) will wait for their specific hull or specific faction to become available.

Anyway, blueprints for CCP issued paint and ships with special issue names are not a complete miss. Blueprint mechanics should definitively stay since it's a good way of bringing in CCP's special issue ships. Who knows, maybe the tech behind the blueprint mechanics will evolve over time to include the other painting option as well.

This is.....elegant.

Why don't they do it like this?

I dont know :(
I am pretty sure the tests they mention during this pilot program are mostly related to the price of the painted ship and not the actual paint method.

Dye modules (or runes, or whatever in other games) are industry standart. Just think of the possebilities:
1. Easy to introduce new colors.
2. Easy to create a slot for a corp emblem.
2. Related industry in producing those dye mods.
3. Managable system overload - a client can just turn them off like he can turn off turrets on ships.
5. You can price them and they will be counted on kill mails.

The current system is insanely not friendly or logical.

I bet first time you heard that it was comming from your wife ... right .. ?