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Skill Training BOOSTER

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Maque
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-04-09 19:06:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Maque
Come on CCP make a booster for real money as plex 50% to atributes for 1 week for $20
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-04-09 19:11:27 UTC
This is one of the most blatant Pay2Win posts I've ever read.

Things are only impossible until they are not.

Erad Stomper
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-04-09 19:11:52 UTC
No.
Dyfchris
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-04-09 20:56:32 UTC
Hell No....
Maque
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-04-09 22:53:16 UTC
I'm playing EVE since 2006 i have nothing to trane anymore lol) i'm thinking about newcommers))
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-04-09 23:00:17 UTC
Maque wrote:
I'm playing EVE since 2006 i have nothing to trane anymore lol) i'm thinking about newcommers))


Time for Caldari Titan 5 then.

Things are only impossible until they are not.

Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-04-10 03:31:35 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Maque wrote:
I'm playing EVE since 2006 i have nothing to trane anymore lol) i'm thinking about newcommers))


Time for Caldari Titan 5 then.

Or just stop updating his clone forever, either one works.
Cardano Firesnake
Fire Bullet Inc
#8 - 2014-04-10 03:43:31 UTC
I think the problem is not the number of skillpoints but where newcomers put them.
Too much new playes train Battleship III before navigation or small weapons ....
Just because they do not understand the game mechanics.
You can enjoy this game in a tech 1 frigate if you you have the good skills. But after three frgate losses without skill and a good fit, you have the false idea that you need something bigger to survive...
If the PVE mechanics was not so different than the PVP mechanics, and if the tutorials were more explicit on the fact that the same ship can be really different with better skills, I think that the number of skill points would not be a problem.

Posted - 2010.07.01 11:24:00 - [4] Erase learning skills, remap all SP. That's all.

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#9 - 2014-04-10 03:44:28 UTC
Posting in a troll thread.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#10 - 2014-04-10 09:24:21 UTC
Maque wrote:
I'm playing EVE since 2006 i have nothing to trane anymore lol) i'm thinking about newcommers))

Malcanis law applies here.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Seliah
Blades of Liberty
#11 - 2014-04-10 09:57:20 UTC
Maque wrote:
I'm playing EVE since 2006 i have nothing to trane anymore lol) i'm thinking about newcommers))


Try training Basic Spelling :).

And no to your "suggestion".
Jallukola
#12 - 2014-04-10 10:20:57 UTC
No, just no. There was a similiar discussion earlier this week / last weekend about the very same concept, merely a different approach. Won't happen, and hopefully CCP keeps their stand on the matter.

All posts and mails screencapped and time stamped, including out of EVE, you will not reverse on me.

Might come in handy!

Velicitia
XS Tech
#13 - 2014-04-10 10:50:39 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Maque wrote:
I'm playing EVE since 2006 i have nothing to trane anymore lol) i'm thinking about newcommers))

Malcanis law applies here.


CCP still give out that 30-day booster to newbies (even if only "special" times)?

If so, this is already in place (well, not the "will fail miserably because of Malcanis' Law" version OP came up with).

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Dalto Bane
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-04-10 10:51:41 UTC
No. Do the crime, do the time... Just like everyone else. Can't be having Knobheads quick training to fly really expensiv... on second thought Yes. This is a brilliant idea.

Drops Mic

Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#15 - 2014-04-10 10:56:24 UTC
If your Eve is not full of waiting U DOIN' EET RONG

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Tear Anasarsy
Reverse Engineering LTD
#16 - 2014-04-10 14:13:32 UTC
Maque wrote:
I'm playing EVE since 2006 i have nothing to trane anymore lol) i'm thinking about newcommers))


As it takes over 18 years to train all available skills I object to your comment, spelling and grammar.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#17 - 2014-04-10 15:39:28 UTC
i thought there was already a booster for the new guys that stops working after so many days.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#18 - 2014-04-10 15:40:16 UTC
No.
Largely because there are no reasons to do so and lots of reasons not to. If you want to train faster, just ask CCP to make training faster — don't tack on an idiotic P2W scheme on top of the already bad idea.
Koz Katral
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#19 - 2014-04-10 15:52:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Koz Katral
I really do not understand what peoples problem is with this and why everyone goes 'SHIELDS UP - PAY TO WIN DO NOT WANT'. Think about what the consequences are for the player base - none of them are really bad.

1 - Want to try a new aspect of the game? Decrease the time it takes to do so and lower the entry barrier, getting players to the content they want faster, increasing retention. (don't try to tell me that making people wait months to do the thing they want to do is better for retention, surely letting them do that thing is vastly more effective.)

2. Lower entry barrier for new players. A lot of players waste skill points early on, but once they have done their research and found out what they want to do, why put an additional barrier in place that prevents them getting to that content? I definitely remember feeling penalized until I had at least 15 million SP. Why damage retention by setting the barrier so high?

3. It really isn't pay to win. Having more skill points isn't going to give you more experience or more isk, both of which are equally, if not more important than skill points when it comes to undertaking a new activity and competing with other players. How many skill points someone else has rarely has any impact on you. Buying ISK with plex is a much bigger advantage, and at this point we have all come to accept that as the norm.

4. More revenue for CCP - In theory results in a more stable company that can produce higher quality content.

At what point does anyone lose? You could possibly add some kind of diminishing return based on the amount of skill points you already have, so that lower sp characters get more of a bonus.

The last thing I think about when playing is 'how many SP the OTHER guy has'. I really don't care. What I care about is how much SP I have, and if I can do that thing I want to do in the game.

The only real counter argument I can think of is for older players (5+ years) who are bitter about people developing faster than they could "back in the day" - My reply would be people are offering the same cash investment by buying plex, and in a 10 year old game, the gap really needs to be closed between old players and new if you want the game to continue growing and survive into the future, as it stands that gap is only going to get bigger.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#20 - 2014-04-10 16:02:15 UTC
1) instant gratification types never stick around anyways. i doubt that any faster training scheme will increase player retention. in fact, the opposite is true. so long as their is a goal to be still achieved, ppl are more likely to stay.

2) there is already one for new players. ppl should stop trying to disguise terrible idea's as good for new players. Players wasting skill points early on is not a problem either. a day, a week, a month, is nothing in eve. saying no to this idea is not adding an initial barrier.

3) Yes. Everything else being equal, a person who buys these will perform better than those who dont.

4) After seeing the jita protest, any pay to win idea has more risk of CCP losing revenue as a large amount of players leave with their armies of alts.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs

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