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The new skins are not what players asked for...

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Ev3rM0r3
In-Vitro Corporation
#1 - 2014-04-09 19:40:54 UTC
Every new ship you release furthers my disappointment. Who wants a rusty looking paint job on a ship? That's not what players had in mind, from all the picture posts and renders of custom ships and hell even ones I did, making it a rustic looking orange spatter is not what people had in mind. Painting your ship should be about you showing it off, showing a uniqueness, and making it look badass with several customizable skin options, none of this prefab paint job nonsense. They downright are ugly, or so dark its very un-distinguishable unless you are close up. CCP would it be so hard to take players advice as is for once instead of taking the idea and attempting to put just your own spin on the idea. You have these discussion forums up for a reason, use their advice as is.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2014-04-09 19:42:57 UTC
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Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-04-09 19:43:46 UTC
Ev3rM0r3 wrote:
Every new ship you release furthers my disappointment. Who wants a rusty looking paint job on a ship? That's not what players had in mind, from all the picture posts and renders of custom ships and hell even ones I did, making it a rustic looking orange spatter is not what people had in mind. Painting your ship should be about you showing it off, showing a uniqueness, and making it look badass with several customizable skin options, none of this prefab paint job nonsense. They downright are ugly, or so dark its very un-distinguishable unless you are close up. CCP would it be so hard to take players advice as is for once instead of taking the idea and attempting to put just your own spin on the idea. You have these discussion forums up for a reason, use their advice as is.



What i was hoping for was a wide library of paintjobs/shades to choose from. Not the current implementation via blueprints.

Yes, I too am disappointed.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#4 - 2014-04-09 19:44:06 UTC
I guess the whole "its a test" thing passed you by, huh?

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MiniWeasel
The Forsakened Few
We Forsakened Few
#5 - 2014-04-09 19:44:17 UTC
I think they look great. No complaints.
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-04-09 19:44:20 UTC
I too need spinners, hydraulics, and a Pinkie Pie themed custom paint job for my L4 Mission Raven.

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-04-09 19:45:06 UTC
Players have not had any unified suggestions on the subject. Freeform painting of ships would be difficult for the servers and enable conduct issues (who really wants to see a **** on an opponents ship), while breaking immersion (pright pink hello kitty ships anyone?). CCP chose the best option and are proceeding cautiously based on player feedback.

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IDGAD
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-04-09 19:45:11 UTC
Fully custom paint jobs would take a lot more work than creating pre-painted skins which obviously enough people seem to be enjoying. Besides, if we gave the players the chance to paint their own ships, all we would have is **** colored thoraxes and pink caracals. Is that really want you want OP? Dickthaxes and vaginacals?
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#9 - 2014-04-09 19:46:03 UTC
IDGAD wrote:
if we gave the players the chance to paint their own ships, all we would have is **** colored thoraxes and pink caracals. Is that really want you want OP? Dickthaxes and vaginacals?


Lets be honest.

The answer is

of course.

In a flat second

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Lakshata Chawla
Blue-Fire
#10 - 2014-04-09 19:49:09 UTC
Speak for yourself.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#11 - 2014-04-09 19:53:54 UTC
As already stated, the ship painting/skins are a pilot program. You do know what the definition of 'pilot program' is right?

Its business speak for alpha test.

Essentually, they looked at used ships and decided to pick a few and see if players are even remotely interested in skins. If they have a few ships and crappy skins but player buy and use them and the crappy mechanic, then the guy in charge can take the numbers to the big wigs at CCP and go 'look, we wanted to hit a goal of xxx sold, we hit yyy! The players want this, even in this design, so can we have money to actually make it work? And based on our projections this will give ccp XXX profit.." Then the big wigs go "do it" or "no no money, wait longer" or "no scrap the entire idea"

This is why you did not see a new mechanic and it fully turned on. If no one used it, you would of seen people having a **** storm about wasted dev time. This was the fastest and easiest way to implement and prolly took a hew hours to do it, as oppose to weeks or months, all the while if it failed, then joe blow player can't go 'wait you wasted 6 months on this crap? you could used that 6 months to fix xxx! what the hell are you think ccp'

Understand? If you want more skins buy or use the ones we have now. Show them there is demand. People ask for this, but how many people, 100? 1000? that's not a lot when you have 500k or so accounts. But if that is shown to be 100k accounts buying the skins... then there is justification in doing a full blow feature.

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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-04-09 19:55:57 UTC


If the ISD is like the forum police then surely Doc Fury is our forum batman!

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#13 - 2014-04-09 19:57:38 UTC
Top tip of the day: understand the feature and its scope before complaining about it.
IDGAD
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-04-09 19:58:19 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
IDGAD wrote:
if we gave the players the chance to paint their own ships, all we would have is **** colored thoraxes and pink caracals. Is that really want you want OP? Dickthaxes and vaginacals?


Lets be honest.

The answer is

of course.

In a flat second


Actually vaginicals sound like it could be a legit caracal fleet composition lol. What would they be?
Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#15 - 2014-04-09 20:16:44 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
As already stated, the ship painting/skins are a pilot program. You do know what the definition of 'pilot program' is right?

Its business speak for alpha test.

Essentually, they looked at used ships and decided to pick a few and see if players are even remotely interested in skins. If they have a few ships and crappy skins but player buy and use them and the crappy mechanic, then the guy in charge can take the numbers to the big wigs at CCP and go 'look, we wanted to hit a goal of xxx sold, we hit yyy! The players want this, even in this design, so can we have money to actually make it work? And based on our projections this will give ccp XXX profit.." Then the big wigs go "do it" or "no no money, wait longer" or "no scrap the entire idea"

This is why you did not see a new mechanic and it fully turned on. If no one used it, you would of seen people having a **** storm about wasted dev time. This was the fastest and easiest way to implement and prolly took a hew hours to do it, as oppose to weeks or months, all the while if it failed, then joe blow player can't go 'wait you wasted 6 months on this crap? you could used that 6 months to fix xxx! what the hell are you think ccp'

Understand? If you want more skins buy or use the ones we have now. Show them there is demand. People ask for this, but how many people, 100? 1000? that's not a lot when you have 500k or so accounts. But if that is shown to be 100k accounts buying the skins... then there is justification in doing a full blow feature.



I respectfully disagree. You dont see if a new 3 course meal will be a hit by just serving the appetizer.

I hate all the new skins, but would still want to paint my ship.

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Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#16 - 2014-04-09 20:22:23 UTC
I am ultra familiar with minimum viable products, but is that really a rationalization for why so many of the released designs look like ass?

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masternerdguy
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-04-09 20:23:42 UTC
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
I am ultra familiar with minimum viable products, but is that really a rationalization for why so many of the released designs look like ass?


Out of curiosity, what designs would you want? Flame blue? Pin stripes? Bumble bee?

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Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#18 - 2014-04-09 20:31:21 UTC
Expectation is the mother of disappointment.
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-04-09 20:47:55 UTC
IDGAD wrote:
all we would have is **** colored thoraxes and pink caracals. Is that really want you want OP? Dickthaxes and vaginacals?


Now Ive seen my fair share of female genitalia and I have to see when looking at the caracal..I really dont see it.

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Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-04-09 20:48:12 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
I am ultra familiar with minimum viable products, but is that really a rationalization for why so many of the released designs look like ass?


Out of curiosity, what designs would you want? Flame blue? Pin stripes? Bumble bee?



You have a limited imagination. Let the artists take over this job, instead of the coders.

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