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CCP PLEASE: Boost the CPU on the Megathron
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SilentSkills
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-12-01 07:14:28 UTC
The hybrid fixes are fine as far as the weapons are concerned, that's it.

But some of the hulls are still severely gimped as far as fitting options go (CPU specifically)

For example on the megathron. Why do we need to fit a meta 4 damage control, low metal level tackle gear, and a CPU implant in order to fit a standard, PVP fit? Do any of the devs fly Gallente ships? Did you even bother to try to fit one while you were fixing hybrids?

The standard pvp mega fit:
2x1600mm RT plate
2xEANM
2xmagstab
1x DCU (ideally a t2, but no...)

t2 MWD + tackle mods (again ideally t2, but no....)
t2 medium cap booster

7x Neutron Blaster Cannon II
1x H.neut

If any of the devs involved in re balancing can be bothered to try and fit this you will find an irrational lack of CPU on this ship compared to ALL OTHER tier 2 Battleships. Its a ******* joke.

Why can't we, gallente pilots with maxed fitting skills, fit our ships as they are intended without having to go through the pain in the ass that is having to fit the specific meta level mods and the implant?
Why can Winmatar ships have their CPU/PG numbers perfectly add up with the standard, common setups without having to use any of the aforementioned "tricks".

Seriously, go fit it and see for yourselves.

Mind you I'm not asking for an uberpwnmobile, because even with the changes I request any other tier 3 BS will melt a megathron. And yes the other tier 2 would still be very competitive and on the same level, the numbers don't change much. The only thing that changes is our ability to fit this ship without having to pull of magic tricks to fit what other races can without breaking a sweat.
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#2 - 2011-12-01 07:21:53 UTC
I to would like to request to fit anything I want on any ship without having to check for CPU and Grid.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#3 - 2011-12-01 07:25:18 UTC
I would understand if it was the hyperion having this problem. Mega isnt supposed to be the top of the line blaster ship though.

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DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-12-01 07:25:19 UTC
Nerf Winmatar.
That is all.
Vachir Khan
Rugged Ruff and Ready
#5 - 2011-12-01 07:35:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Vachir Khan
New EFT:

So you have to replace a EANM with a nano plate, BFD.

[Megathron, test]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

100MN MicroWarpdrive II
Warp Scrambler II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Ogre II x5
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2011-12-01 07:39:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Florestan Bronstein
[Apocalypse, Apocalypse fit]

Mega Pulse Laser II
Mega Pulse Laser II
Mega Pulse Laser II
Mega Pulse Laser II
Mega Pulse Laser II
Mega Pulse Laser II
Mega Pulse Laser II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II

100MN MicroWarpdrive II
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler II
Medium Capacitor Booster II

1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Warrior II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5


11.25% above max CPU. Your expectations on what a single tier 2 battleship should be able to fit in terms of T2 mods are inflated.

Also note that C-Type Adaptive Nano Platings have almost the same stats asT2 EANMs, are dirt cheap and have vastly lower CPU requirements.
SilentSkills
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-12-01 07:40:30 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
I would understand if it was the hyperion having this problem. Mega isnt supposed to be the top of the line blaster ship though.


Megathron is the staple of a Gallente buffer + neutron blaster dps dude. It may not be the best but it is the ship-of-the-line if you will.

Moreover, the changes I propose are far from game or balance breaking, seriously, t2 DCU and tackle.

Most armor tanked battleship pvp fits whether active or buffer start with Tech 2 plates/LAR, eanms, DCU, and tackle gear.

Seriously, all this ship needs is about 20 more CPU, 20.
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#8 - 2011-12-01 07:50:29 UTC
SilentSkills wrote:
Seriously, all this ship needs is about 20 more CPU, 20.


How much CPU have you gained with the weapons rebalance?

add to that the cpu you can gain with even dirtcheap 1% implants.

add to that cheapish faction modules.

And stop. Please just stop.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#9 - 2011-12-01 07:53:22 UTC
SilentSkills wrote:


If any of the devs involved in re balancing can be bothered to try and fit this you will find an irrational lack of CPU on this ship compared to ALL OTHER tier 2 Battleships. Its a ******* joke.


Can I see your torp raven fit please?

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Nyla Skin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-12-01 08:49:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Nyla Skin
Have you tried Advanced weapon upgrades V? Or a cpu implant.

Alternatively, tune down from using neutrons into ions.

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Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
#11 - 2011-12-01 09:29:30 UTC
SilentSkills wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
I would understand if it was the hyperion having this problem. Mega isnt supposed to be the top of the line blaster ship though.


Megathron is the staple of a Gallente buffer + neutron blaster dps dude. It may not be the best but it is the ship-of-the-line if you will.

Moreover, the changes I propose are far from game or balance breaking, seriously, t2 DCU and tackle.

Most armor tanked battleship pvp fits whether active or buffer start with Tech 2 plates/LAR, eanms, DCU, and tackle gear.

Seriously, all this ship needs is about 20 more CPU, 20.


So that nobody would ever have to try make a fit? Just toss in whatever you like?

The megathron is easy to fit, you can, without a problem, make a sniper out of it as well as a blaster boat. The fitting problems you describe are total fiction. Put in some faction mods, c-types, etc. I've got no problem fitting my megathron and I don't know why you do have.

Have you got AWU 5? Have you got all relelvant fitting skills to 5? If not, then please keep these comments to your self.

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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2011-12-01 10:45:01 UTC
Fitting a ship, any ship, should be an exercise in frustrating compromise.

It helps create variety.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#13 - 2011-12-01 10:52:51 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
Nerf Winmatar.
That is all.


No.

Bye!

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non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#14 - 2011-12-01 10:53:01 UTC
SilentSkills wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
I would understand if it was the hyperion having this problem. Mega isnt supposed to be the top of the line blaster ship though.


Megathron is the staple of a Gallente buffer + neutron blaster dps dude. It may not be the best but it is the ship-of-the-line if you will.

Moreover, the changes I propose are far from game or balance breaking, seriously, t2 DCU and tackle.

Most armor tanked battleship pvp fits whether active or buffer start with Tech 2 plates/LAR, eanms, DCU, and tackle gear.

Seriously, all this ship needs is about 20 more CPU, 20.

Why would anyone use tech 2 plates?
Niko Takahashi
Yoshitomi Group
#15 - 2011-12-01 10:53:28 UTC
OP lacks basic fitting skills

Close the thread

OR

I agree with the OP

I want to have 6 torp 2 heavy neuts MWD cap Booster 4 BCU 1 DCU setup on my raven.
without the need of grid module

Decisions decisions

Majora Veneris
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-12-01 11:11:03 UTC
non judgement wrote:

Why would anyone use tech 2 plates?




This.

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sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#17 - 2011-12-01 11:54:19 UTC
Use Ion Blasters

Tier 2 Battleship with Tier 2 Large Blasters, its almost as if thats meant to happen.....Roll

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Raven Ether
Doomheim
#18 - 2011-12-01 12:04:34 UTC
Also boost Nighthawk Powegrid.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-12-01 12:22:05 UTC
SilentSkills wrote:
Most armor tanked battleship pvp fits whether active or buffer start with Tech 2 plates


How did you even make it to 60M SP?

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Vachir Khan
Rugged Ruff and Ready
#20 - 2011-12-01 12:25:00 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
SilentSkills wrote:
Most armor tanked battleship pvp fits whether active or buffer start with Tech 2 plates


How did you even make it to 60M SP?


This is a valid question that needs answering.
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