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About ammos ! Get rid of them !!!
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BugraT WarheaD
#1 - 2014-04-08 17:31:52 UTC  |  Edited by: BugraT WarheaD
Okay don't flame now I'm kidding.

But recently I've talked with some mates about ammos in the game.
How much munitions do you really uses ?

I don't think that a lot of different ammo types is a bad thing, but I think that they must be usefull.
Is there any plans for revamping the muns like CCP revamps the ships ?

T II muns are okay (because there's not many), but why do you have only to choose between DPS or less DPS ?
With bombs and othe s**t there's lots of ammo types that CCP didn't explore at all like ...

Did someone ever comes here with an idea of *new* ammos ?
Webbing muns ? light DPS but Web for x seconds at x%.
Warp Disrupt ammos ? light DPS but disrupt the ship for x seconds.
Mines ?
Something reaaly cool and way better than my poor ideas ? Big smile

I think that there's tons of thing to improve gameplay exeprience by rethinking ammos in Eve Online ... Am i the only one ?







*A distant voice shouts "yes"*
Karen Avioras
The Raging Raccoons
#2 - 2014-04-08 17:34:26 UTC
what the...
Cloak n'all
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-04-08 17:41:19 UTC
Ammo should get a re balancing, however I do not thing that "Web" or point ammo is a good idea at all. Mines (limited to Null) would be a cool addition though.
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
#4 - 2014-04-08 17:51:33 UTC
Mines would be a re-addition to the game.

That awkward moment at the Gentlemen's Club when you see your sister on the stage....and you're not sure where to put the money....
TehCloud
Guardians of the Dodixie
#5 - 2014-04-08 17:56:56 UTC
Last Wolf wrote:
Mines would be a re-addition to the game.

And a horrible, yet hilarious one.

My Condor costs less than that module!
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#6 - 2014-04-08 18:12:25 UTC
A lot of people start new topics while drunk.

Or at least that's how it seems.
Cloak n'all
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-04-08 18:28:17 UTC
Mine were in the game? Why were they taken out?
Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
#8 - 2014-04-08 18:29:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Aerie Evingod
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
A lot of people start new topics while drunk.

Or at least that's how it seems.


Drunk ammo! Shoot tequila bottles at your opponents ships to get them drunk and give them side effects... Like anti-boosters.
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
#9 - 2014-04-08 18:29:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Last Wolf
Very briefly like 2003 or 2004. IIRC they were taken out due to them causing lag, and the fact that you couldn't jump through a gate without insta-exploding.

That awkward moment at the Gentlemen's Club when you see your sister on the stage....and you're not sure where to put the money....
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#10 - 2014-04-08 18:35:31 UTC
Cloak n'all wrote:
Mine were in the game? Why were they taken out?


lags...it would be like having a hundred missiles in a system...forever. or back to having book marks all over the place.

and there are some under used ammo's, but hell no to web and point ammo. and even though the inferno trailer seems to have bumping physics on missiles, no to that too.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-04-08 19:57:20 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Cloak n'all wrote:
Mine were in the game? Why were they taken out?


lags...it would be like having a hundred missiles in a system...forever. or back to having book marks all over the place.

and there are some under used ammo's, but hell no to web and point ammo. and even though the inferno trailer seems to have bumping physics on missiles, no to that too.

BUT IMAGINE the anti-frigate effect of the Phoenix if being near one of its missiles exploding bumped you away in the opposite direction at like 3-10km/s

would be hilarious for splitting up fleets, frigs being thrown thousands of kilometers, battleships thrown for maybe a few hundred to a thousand.

breaking up the blobs, literally, one splosion at a time
BugraT WarheaD
#12 - 2014-04-08 20:23:15 UTC  |  Edited by: BugraT WarheaD
Cloak n'all wrote:
Ammo should get a re balancing, however I do not thing that "Web" or point ammo is a good idea at all.

I did'nt say that's a good idea, just ideas, but it seems to me that having only choices between DPS and DPS isn't really a choice, the wast majority of ammos were underused ... when they're used, and I used to think that it's sad. What?

By the way i wasn't drunk ... this time ...
Ne'Rubis Tanthalas
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-04-08 22:27:02 UTC
BugraT WarheaD wrote:
Cloak n'all wrote:
Ammo should get a re balancing, however I do not thing that "Web" or point ammo is a good idea at all.

I did'nt say that's a good idea, just ideas, but it seems to me that having only choices between DPS and DPS isn't really a choice, the wast majority of ammos were underused ... when they're used, and I used to think that it's sad. What?

By the way i wasn't drunk ... this time ...



but.. but.. that's not the choice at all. There's range, damage types, tracking ammo.
BugraT WarheaD
#14 - 2014-04-09 05:18:20 UTC
Damage Types ? only for projectile and missiles, and even with that kind of choices, you don't really use all kind of ammo, mostly 2 or 3 different. Same thing for range, you generally use ammos that fit in your scramble/disrupt range to be effective, or you're sniping, so that's 2 or 3 different ammos.
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#15 - 2014-04-09 06:50:17 UTC
Last Wolf wrote:
Very briefly like 2003 or 2004. IIRC they were taken out due to them causing lag, and the fact that you couldn't jump through a gate without insta-exploding.

I thought that it was because people were getting CONCORDed from a mine that they left in NS whilst they were in HS.
Sardek Nardan
Khanid Constructions
#16 - 2014-04-09 12:53:39 UTC
I don't agree with all OP ideas, but there is indeed problem with munition. Except for those with various damage type, how many different munition type are really used? If you look at the t1 hybrid (or rather there faction equivalent), half of them are useless. Currently it is range vs dps. Maybe instead of having 10 different munition for various ratio between the two, we could have more parameters we can decide on (tracking, alpha, rof, range, overheat etc...).

Do I want the short range high dps one or the short range high tracking one?
Do I want the long range alpha one or the long range capa savy one?

That's just example, I am sure CCP could come with combination that makes some sense.
Percival Rose
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-04-09 13:17:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Percival Rose
For a second I thought you were serious about removing ammo. Will you please never suggest anything like that again. You scared me P

Last Wolf wrote:
Mines would be a re-addition to the game.

Mines vs miners Big smile +1

Do you know who's going to inherit New Eden? Arms dealers. Because everyone else is too busy killing each other.
Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#18 - 2014-04-09 16:01:25 UTC
I want bullets similar to the ones in Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
BugraT WarheaD
#19 - 2014-04-11 18:15:17 UTC
Arsine Mayhem wrote:
I want bullets similar to the ones in Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

It is called a missile :p