Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Expand the ammount of systems so much, that the amount of corps, dont have Manpower, strength or Finances to claim and hold everything. As its now, every little shitcreek of a system is fought over or owned. Now its about 5000 systems in k-Space.... roughly... multiply that With 100 or 1000 and change map into a Galaxy swirl.

The hardware costs alone for the additional systems would put CCP out of business. Not to mention there's a metric **** ton of systems already in place. Just because you can't waltz in and take one all by your onesies is not an indication there needs to be more systems. Also, what Luzade said.

Exactly that. That's probably also the reason why we have not heard something in a long time about progress or ideas regarding revamping/renovating/replacing the geriatric sov system with something that reflects more what people actually do with their sov.

There are so many systems, which are not used for anything; just look at regions like impass, Cobalt Edge, Cloud Ring, Kalevala Expanse, Pure Blind or Tenal. Vast swaths of unused space everywhere, but no one has a chance to grab some of them and start living there because they are eternally hold by big power blocks. CCP wants to force more people into Sov space out of Empire space, so CCP should start thinking about how to make it possible for smaller entities to get a hold in Sov space. I don't say that everyone and a dog should be able to hold a station system, that everyone should be able to live without blues in Sov. that we should have conditions like in Providence or Deklein, but more people should be able to start something in Sov space. Personally, I like to have a lot of empty, unclaimed systems and only a couple beacon constellations.

Most of claimed space empty, just being held by power blocs to rent out, at the same time that makes a empire group trying to break out to null near impossible because of the amount if players you would need if you don't want to be paying monthly tribute to either bloc.
If more systems were made for example when dronelands were released, there was a mad dash my all of the null sec crews plus some from empire to attempt to claim it.

Edit: an attempt to control how much space a group could control came out with the 500 m isk sink with dominion, as you can see the powerblocs were able to adapt and work to control even more space

u know eve is a sandbox right? why place arbitrary limits on sov just to let unorganised weaker alliances get a slice of the pie they dnt deserve.

To Call EVE a sandbox game, is slightly wrong, within a sandbox game, u can and are encouraged to change the Virtual world ure in. In EVE u cant change the game within, just use it.

We do not change the Virtual world, we add to the Virtual world, like POS's ect ect

TBH, I've been wanting them to add many new systems in nullsec and even lowsec for some time. IMO, space is supposed to be vast, but you can't travel 3 jumps without tripping over a group of players these days. Moreover, the current mechanics make it too easy to control wide swathes of territory and pushes the smaller entities out completely.

I'd personally like to see a number of changes to address this:

• First, add a lot more systems, possibly even doubling the amount of nullsec available..
• Second, drastically reduce the jump range of capital ships. Make it take a lot more jumps to cover a given distance, thus making it harder to use them to control massive amounts of territory. This will also require a rework or removal of the POS jump bridge module and an adjustment to titan jump portal range.
• Third, give jump freighters a hard cap on the number of jumps they can do per hour; this will be in addition to reducing their jump range along with the other capital ships. The intent here is to force them to use gates for part of their trip, thus creating a more vulnerable supply chain that can be attacked. This should, in turn, make it harder to hold vast areas of space.
• Fourth (and this will probably be the most controversial), limit jump clones. Currently, it's possible to have jump clones in many different regions. If you also have ships in station for each jump clone, it's a trivial matter to jump over there, ship up, and defend your space. This ability makes it easier to control multiple regions of territory. While removing jump clones outright would be the most effective limitation, that would also provide unnecessary hardship for some players. As such, I would suggest limiting the total number of jump clones to only one.

The combined effect of these changes should be a reduction in the amount of territory controlled by any single entity, and hopefully create more and smaller internet space nations.

These suggestions are coming from the point of view of someone who played EVE and fought for sov in 0.0 prior to capital ships being introduced and the massive influx of new players. Back then, it was very difficult to control more than one region since you had to use gates to fly out to any system you wished to attack. Moreover, the supply chains were very vulnerable; supplies had to be slowboated from point A to point B in industrial ships that were vulnerable to destruction, requiring players to fly escort missions for their haulers (and also offering the opportunity to attack said haulers in enjoyable, smaller scale combat). IMO, the game was a lot more fun back then and, hopefully, these proposed changes could bring back some of the game's lost appeal.

I have the faint sensation that Seagull's plan may have something to do with that.

Aye, cyno chains, titan bridges, and jump bridges make moving a fleet of 500+ ppl far to easy and fast.