Skill Discussions

[Tengu, Pinata]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Republic Fleet Target Painter
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Caldari Navy Explosion Dampening Field
Invulnerability Field II
Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir

I fly this in Angel space.

With tech II launchers/ammo, missle support skills to level 4 and 3% implants I get around 725 dps and 725 tank against Angels.

You don't need a billion isk mod for a tengu. The only somewhat expensive mods I have on mine are Pithi c-type small shield boosters, caldari navy BCU's and a corelum c-type 10mn afterburner. Rarely do I have to run one booster, almost never do I have to run both.

The one that can perma run the booster while not sacrificing DPS.
You can permanently run a Pithi Small Booster, a Fed Navy AB, Hardener and two TPs with good cap skills or an Implant. It's obviously not great for Nullsec since you've only got one type of Tank but in Highsec, where i assume the OP will be flying, you rarely, if ever need more than a 3 slot tank (especially against Kinetic or Thermal rats) and an AB, plus you're much more resilient if you get webbed or Neuted.

You don't even need a CCC once your skills are up to par, and everybody was just given a free +1.5% cap Implant yesterday.

Aside from the obvious need to max your volley damage through skills, BCS, and rigging, the biggest gains I got to DPS were through maximizing the ROF of your launchers.

That is where the Tech 2 launchers become essential. Not only will Fury hit harder, but with heavy missile spec, you'll shave off precious time and see your DPS go up quite nicely.

I've flown over 300 missions and done over 300 incursions with a tengu, so here is some insight. YOu want to put as much DPS on your bird as possible for minimum tank. SO if you see any loadouts that have a medium shield booster or more for Lvl 4s or simple null sec ratting, they are doing it WRONG. Yes i know there are multiple ways to do it, but when you are grinding mission after mission after mission you get to the point where you want the most performance per hour for the least amount of isk spent. THat's just how it it is period.

Fit should be as follows (off the top of my head)

top: 6 x HML loaded with scourge fury (depends on mission) and have precision in your cargo IF your skills aren't good
Mids: 2x gisti-b small shield boosters, 1 SBA Tech II or Named, 10MN aB (named), 2 mission specific hardeners
Lows: CNBCU x 4

Subs:
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir

Rigs: Rigor tech 2 x 2
Flare tech 2

Make sure your tengu skills are all to at least + 4 and your defensive and Offensive to 5 (they are the most imporant for running missions). Make sure you read the specifics on each mission before you run them so you know what hardeners to put on and how to run the mission as efficiently as possible.

You are a SPEED tank. That is where this ship really shines. With a speed tank i'm getting hit with 10 damage per Rat on a volley from a torp, without AB i'm taking over 30-100. Yes your incoming damage goes down THAT much when you are speed tanking. IT IS VITAL to have a prop and to be moving in order to take full advantage of your signature.

I personally use precision, people say it's fine without but personally when i'm running something where i know my tank will fail in a minute or two if i'm webbed i want to take those elite frigs out as fast as possible. WIth precision i'm taking out those frigs in 2-3 volleys, with furies sometimes about 10. So it's uip to you, i think most people don't use it cause the reload time is ********. plus those precision ******* WHOOP ASS in incursions. A lot of the times i'm hiting the niarjas, SMaels, and tamas for over 1000 damage a volley. Its up to you, after you run some missions you'll get a feel for the ship.

But overall, with the tengu it's about being a moving target, knowing your missions/rats well enough to destroy them without getting destroyed, and making as much isk for as little spent (buying ammo, buying mods, making that money back)

Since you mentioned tengu tank earlier Ill chime in.

If you have 400 tank in a tengu with Ab you can tank any mission with ease. Sure some (hello mining misapropriations) will need to be range tanked as well. But otherwise, just orbit something at 7km and press f1 now and then... go make coffee.

My tengu used to be rather overtanked (500 omni def) and i could just not even bother moving. Sure it was due to expensive mods (no dont bother using locator agents it is sold and flying t2 mach now). but speed and signature is your tank in a tengu.

EDIT: before someone say you die to webbers, no you dont. If you have rigor rigs in webbers die long before your tank breaks unless you are doing something wrong. sure your shields might now be at 100% all the time. but what is the point of that?