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Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#81 - 2014-04-07 14:20:28 UTC
There are more ways to fight a war than with guns and giant ships, Diana.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#82 - 2014-04-07 14:29:30 UTC
Not just more ways, but better ones. The very oldest texts we have on strategy and warfare express the opinion that wars are best won without having to resort to the crude business of actual fighting, and I'm inclined to agree with them. Violence is what you resort to in order to attain the objective, not the objective itself.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#83 - 2014-04-07 14:34:56 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
One hopes, yes. If the Practical bloc decide that they'd rather not help the Patriots set a precedent of CEP inquisitions every time a megacorporate executive so much as shakes hands with a senator, it would be very encouraging.


Never mind the Practical bloc, I find it interesting that Wiyrkomi has kept itself pretty much solidly out of the spotlight during this period.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#84 - 2014-04-07 14:40:16 UTC
Good point, and my apologies to them for ignoring them. Throw in Hyasyoda and I really don't have an excuse for falling into that old trap of looking at the loudmouth in the foreground rather than the quiet one in the back.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#85 - 2014-04-07 15:06:57 UTC
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
There are more ways to fight a war than with guns and giant ships, Diana.

With many small ships?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#86 - 2014-04-07 15:13:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Bribery, propaganda, intimidation, espionage, surveillance, SigInt and deception all spring to mind, too.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#87 - 2014-04-07 15:22:35 UTC
Can we just kill them instead?..

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#88 - 2014-04-07 15:34:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Bribery is the art of getting their soldiers to fight for you.
Propaganda is the art of getting their civilians to work for you.
Intimidation is the art of convincing them not to fight you, thereby preserving your soldiers and materiel from needless attrition.
Espionage is the art of detecting what they're about to do so you can stop them.
Surveillance is the art of seeing where they are so you can outmaneouver them.
SigInt is the art of knowing what they're thinking, so you can anticipate them.
Deception is the art of falsifying their senses, so you can control them.

War is the art of winning: The art of killing has a different name.

If the victor can't profit in the aftermath, then they didn't win. Anybody can nuke a world until the ash glows at night, but what's the point if nobody could live there afterwards?

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#89 - 2014-04-07 16:50:31 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Can we just kill them instead?..

No. That would be costly and counter productive.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Agiri Falken
Akagi Initiative
#90 - 2014-04-07 19:25:51 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Bribery is the art of getting their soldiers to fight for you.
Propaganda is the art of getting their civilians to work for you.
Intimidation is the art of convincing them not to fight you, thereby preserving your soldiers and materiel from needless attrition.
Espionage is the art of detecting what they're about to do so you can stop them.
Surveillance is the art of seeing where they are so you can outmaneouver them.
SigInt is the art of knowing what they're thinking, so you can anticipate them.
Deception is the art of falsifying their senses, so you can control them.

War is the art of winning: The art of killing has a different name.

If the victor can't profit in the aftermath, then they didn't win. Anybody can nuke a world until the ash glows at night, but what's the point if nobody could live there afterwards?

Good summation of strategic thinking as a whole really. Focusing on singular battles might win fights, focusing on all aspects of warfare will keep you from having to expend men and materiel in them to start with.
James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#91 - 2014-04-07 22:39:39 UTC  |  Edited by: James Syagrius
Stitcher wrote:
Bribery, propaganda, intimidation, espionage, surveillance, SigInt and deception all spring to mind, too.

I find it enjoyable to listen to Caldari, loyal to the State, discussing “winning” any potential “peace”.

I would remind my Caldari friends regarding the tactics so accurately identified by Stitcher… When you choose a tactic be sure you're better at it than your advocacy.

I would remind my friends loyal to the Federation, who seem so eager for peace, that the State’s definition of it is profoundly different than our own.

“Here also are the heralds of his praise."
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#92 - 2014-04-07 23:21:06 UTC
An update for those of us following this news.

And Syagrius? That Gallente nationalist outfit you've been trying on these last few months? Terribly unbecoming. As insufferable as you always are and will be, you were still preferable in that Angel get-up you were wearing.

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Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#93 - 2014-04-08 04:58:09 UTC
Stitcher wrote:

. Anybody can nuke a world until the ash glows at night, but what's the point if nobody could live there afterwards?


Nuking a world has a nasty tendency to make the opposing side nuke one of yours in return, and thats a vicious cycle no one wants to be a part of, no one in their right mind, anyway.

Nothing Personal - Just Business...

Chaos Creates Content
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#94 - 2014-04-08 12:39:33 UTC
Stitcher wrote:

If the victor can't profit in the aftermath, then they didn't win. Anybody can nuke a world until the ash glows at night, but what's the point if nobody could live there afterwards?


Nonsense. God would be most glorified in a war of wars that resulted in the loss of (say) four-fifths of the Chosen of God and thousands of habitable planets — as long as the reprobate of God were totally destroyed.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#95 - 2014-04-08 13:07:49 UTC
You desperately need a TCMC.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#96 - 2014-04-08 13:28:15 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
You desperately need a girlfriend.


FTFY

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#97 - 2014-04-08 13:34:44 UTC
Ava, think it through: Any woman willing to endure him romantically would have to share his insanity.

Nappy getting a girlfriend wouldn't solve the problem, but exacerbate it. Can you imagine TWO of him? In love? Writing terrible poetry to one another in the blood of their sacrifices and taking each other as a sign of God's favour for their psychotic rampages?

I'd rather be locked in a cage with four thousand huggy-wuggy-wuv bears.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#98 - 2014-04-08 14:08:37 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Any woman willing to endure him romantically would have to share his insanity.

I'm sure I could rattle off a few names that would meet that requirement.

Stitcher wrote:
Can you imagine TWO of him? In love? Writing terrible poetry to one another in the blood of their sacrifices and taking each other as a sign of God's favour for their psychotic rampages?

All this has happened before. We can only pray it won't happen again.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#99 - 2014-04-08 14:22:59 UTC
Right, and we were well shot of it last time.

Stick a chip in the man's head before he should be allowed to stick his prick in anything organic.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#100 - 2014-04-08 16:06:50 UTC
I can honestly say that I had not thought of offering sacrifices for romantic purposes until it was mentioned just now (although I believe I recall the affair that the last few posters remember with horror from an earlier stint as a pilot). Rest assured that should I do such a thing, I will have received leave from God to do so, and thus my sacrifices would be accompanied not by bad poetry but revealed True Scripture.