Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Both heavy and medium drones are getting speed buff at same time. Read Dev Blog about this.

Speaking of EHP of Ogre with 500% bonus ... ain't going down easily. Especially that it will be faster at same time. And on top of that rattle does more damage from missiles than ever.

I am very sad about the Gila changes D:

and I too fear for my rattle.

I have not flown my Gila in a long time.

I had it configured for low sec exploration, with sentries.
I was waiting to see what niche it would fill, but realize it is now complete garbage as a PvE ship., as the AI will still shred medium drones just like they do now, wiping out much of the DPS in seconds.
And of course, in a PvP situation, the adversary will just blow up a Hammerhead and bam, a huge chunk of DPS is removed.

I will wait until prices go up, as some poor saps will think it is awesome, and likely sell it.

But hey, you sycophants that think rise and fozzie should cater solely to the PvP crowd, you keep on licking their boots.
They are doing wonders for you. The rest of us, well, we are screwed by them at very turn.

I can't wait until my Stratios is "rebalanced" solely as a PvP boat, and well, my low sec exploration Proteus was already trashed.

i am not shocked dinsdale was using the wrong ship poorly for a niche it's bested in by a lot of other ships and is whining when it is rebalanced to have its own niche that is pretty unique instead of it being buffed for dinsdale's dumb use

not shocked at all

When do we get these on Singularity anyway?

Damn you now I'm going to have pull some of my Phantasms off the market for my use;-)

Please do not reduce the Vigilants powergrid by 10%. This is not a small change as it can currently barely fit a reasonable 1600mm buffer tank with T2 Ions. With this proposed change people will either start having to use 800mm plates, drop to electrons or self rep. All of these options making this a worse and more expensive Deimos.

Also, +1 on Cynabal changes needing to be rethought. Cynabal is currently similar to the old Vagabond but has not kept pace with the balance changes to T1 cruisers.

While I liked the drones on the Worm I feel that the Gila should get an extra drone and a slightly lower % boost as a role bonus. Playing with 2 drones at frig level is alright, but at cruiser level it should be 3 or 4 with an adjusted role bonus.

So with 3 drones it would be 333% or 4 would be 250%

Another idea that might work to add some versatility would be to try giving it 25 mbit/s bandwidth. Since the bonus only applied to med drones, the light drone gets no additional bonuses but could allow for Ewar drones or something (if you guys intend to work on them to make them useful anyways.)

I feel a little underwhelmed by the predictability of of the changes here. Phantasm will be interesting with 100mn, but would have liked to see a little better base mobility. Ashimmu, align time what? PWG nerf on cynabal is understandable, but 280 seems pretty heavy handed to me in addition to getting slapped with a mass increase. I think I would be remiss in not signing my name to the list of people who are saying that slapping a relatively hefty nerf to the cynabal might be the toll of obscurity for a once prominent ship.

Well, the Gila is a solid PvE boat. The missiles and drones allow for damage selection. And Laserzpewpew killed plenty of goons with a PvP Gila.


The Gila definitely needed some love with speed and cpu/grid. But it will still be outclassed by other missiles boats or other drone boats, and split weapons ships suck to actually use even if they produce big numbers in EFT. And without sentries, all the dps of this Gila is delayed dps.