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Is PLEX for character rename still being discussed

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Prince Kobol
#1 - 2014-04-07 15:01:38 UTC
A while ago there was a post regarding PLEX (or 2) for a character rename.

If I remember correctly a few devs also posted on the thread not dismissing the idea.

Essentially even after renaming your character the previous name would still show in the character history.

Was wondering if this is still being discussed at all at CCP HQ?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2014-04-07 15:06:13 UTC
Thay may have had to sacrifice their youngest programer to the legacy code for merely thinking about it though, they might have been telling you their name.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#3 - 2014-04-07 15:11:21 UTC
I hope to hell not

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#4 - 2014-04-07 15:28:19 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
I hope to hell not


This^

and This:



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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#5 - 2014-04-07 15:32:32 UTC
I can think of worse things to spend dev time on.

But only after a few minutes browsing F&I.

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#6 - 2014-04-07 15:34:25 UTC
Several dev's have said this won't happen, but then again that was a few years ago. Because name = reputation. And that is kinda what sticks with you in eve. So I hope this never happens

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Pix Severus
Empty You
#7 - 2014-04-07 16:30:32 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Essentially even after renaming your character the previous name would still show in the character history.


If this is ensured, then I don't see a problem with it.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#8 - 2014-04-07 16:43:11 UTC
Yeah name changes to the corp thieves and awoxers have a field day.

Only if more features or mechanics or put in place to fight them perhaps?

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#9 - 2014-04-07 16:47:13 UTC
Iirc, the main problem was figuring out a way to retain and present a list of aliases, and make it easily searchable so you can always check the history of the character.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#10 - 2014-04-07 16:49:49 UTC
Names have consequences.

You want naming rights, roll a new character.

If you want to buy a character, you give up naming rights.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#11 - 2014-04-07 16:51:00 UTC
Only reason why people would want to change their names in EVE are:

1) you're a known corp thief and even idiots know about your name by now.
2) you're on everyone watch list
3) you're such an a-hole that you have to change your name to get anything done with others, until they realise who you are of c.
4) you think that your new name would be so cooool and edgy that you just 'gotta hav it'.
5) you need to scam someone.
6) you like running around jita in a shuttle with 60+ PLEX in cargo, too bad that those bad pirate people know that as well.
7) you played for 7 years and only just now you realised that your name is incredibly stupid.
8) all the Finns hail you with moon-language and "duel" you in null because you took the name of "Raimo" or equivalent contemporary Finnish name.

9) none of the above are valid reasons to change your name.
10) any other reason you would like to change your name in EVE ?
Sarmatiko
#12 - 2014-04-07 17:28:01 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Thay may have had to sacrifice their youngest programer to the legacy code for merely thinking about it though, they might have been telling you their name.

The code already in place as this feature already implemented on Serenity.
Despite that, CCP ignored this question since July and not even mentioned character renames in developer blog related to chinese server. So either they not ready to announce this for TQ yet, or they are evil company that don't like taking our money for industry standard service.
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-04-07 17:32:48 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
A while ago there was a post regarding PLEX (or 2) for a character rename.

If I remember correctly a few devs also posted on the thread not dismissing the idea.

Essentially even after renaming your character the previous name would still show in the character history.

Was wondering if this is still being discussed at all at CCP HQ?


The absence of denial isn't acceptance of an idea either.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#14 - 2014-04-07 17:36:26 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Yeah name changes to the corp thieves and awoxers have a field day.

Only if more features or mechanics or put in place to fight them perhaps?



If recruiters can't even be bothered to check corp history of Psychotic Monk et al. when why would they check the name history.
Victor Dathar
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#15 - 2014-04-07 18:18:34 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:


If recruiters can't even be bothered to check corp history of Psychotic Monk et al. when why would they check the name history.


And here in lays the rub. People do not check the information given as it is and so these things happen. As a Goonwaffe recruiter I have a system of checks and balances to always do what we can to root out spies and awoxers in the recruitment process.

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Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-04-07 20:10:19 UTC
No.

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Markku Laaksonen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-04-07 20:21:53 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Names have consequences.

You want naming rights, roll a new character.

If you want to buy a character, you give up naming rights.



"Consequences" in EVE are an illusion and driven by marketing hype. There are no lasting, meaningful consequences.

There are many ways to allow name changes in a way that still pleases the "consequence" crowd. The most simple would be to have a name history similar to corp history. You could even have that history be searchable so searching for posts by Markku Laaksonen will also pull up whatever I change my to (or changed it from). Have it be accessible via API when a recruiter is looking at a new recruit's info.

Especially when buying a new character, have a clearly displayed note that the character was transferred, and a name change took place by the purchaser.

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GreenSeed
#18 - 2014-04-07 20:26:11 UTC
we should have a way of accessing our character ID ingame, that way the name means crap, your number is what matters. having a name change history makes the whole thing even more annoying. and if people didn't bother to check the name now, they would care less about the ID#.
Marsha Mallow
#19 - 2014-04-07 21:09:56 UTC
Baneken wrote:
7) you played for 7 years and only just now you realised that your name is incredibly stupid.

Sad

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Brusanan
Sons of Seyllin
Pirate Lords of War
#20 - 2014-04-07 21:31:52 UTC
Baneken wrote:
8) all the Finns hail you with moon-language and "duel" you in null because you took the name of "Raimo" or equivalent contemporary Finnish name.

This, except in Russian. An alt of mine has a name in Russian and I get people trying to speak to me in Russian every single day. I'd pay a PLEX or 2 to change his name to IDON'TF*CKINGSPEAKRUSSIAN.
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