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C6 Solo?

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iu'ra
Criterion.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#1 - 2014-04-07 03:08:07 UTC
Is it possible to do a C6 site solo or at least part of it? I will be using a Paladin for this with 35% ish cap stability and a 4k Dps Tank
Sith1s Spectre
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-04-07 03:24:03 UTC
Personally I think the biggest problem you will run into is how do you not get neuted out?

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#3 - 2014-04-07 04:12:50 UTC
iu'ra wrote:
Is it possible to do a C6 site solo or at least part of it? I will be using a Paladin for this with 35% ish cap stability and a 4k Dps Tank


Wow, I've seen videos of people soloing C5s in Marauders... but a C6 is just an extra level of crazy. Try it on Sisi, we look forward to your results!
The Cue
Violence is the Answer
#4 - 2014-04-07 05:42:22 UTC  |  Edited by: The Cue
Looks like your 4k DPS tank is enough to handle the DPS inbound, however I wonder if you can handle the neuts. 2x Cap boosters are required at least, but will you run out of boosters before you finish off the site?

EDIT: stay away from Core Citadels. They'll alpha you I suspect.
GizzyBoy
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#5 - 2014-04-07 06:07:07 UTC
perhaps the system with boosts to armour for a palli, maybe, but if a carrier / dread lands at 150 yo dead fo shure
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-04-07 06:58:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
solo as in 1 ship or solo as in 1 person?
1 person is very doable in numerous ways.

1 ship? yeah probably, though maybe not in a vanilla system.
a crystal implanted vargur with plex tank can almost certainly run at least some on the C6 sites in a pulsar for example.
mind, it's probably cheaper the buy the dread and carrier and loki needed to do it the normal way.

I highly doubt any armour ship can do it solo btw.


PS: for reference this is what I plugged quickly into EFT:

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[Vargur, C6]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer
Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer

Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
Bastion Module I
Imperial Navy Large EMP Smartbomb
Corpus A-Type Heavy Nosferatu
Corpus A-Type Heavy Nosferatu

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II


in pulsar, with crystals it tanks 4.7k and is 82% cap stable with -69.9/+163.3 cap.
dunno of the +111 spare cap/sec with the smartbomb off is enough. i'd run the numbers and fit a PDS over a TE if i wasn't sure to starts off with.

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Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#7 - 2014-04-07 09:22:08 UTC
Some sites yes, all sites no - some of the spawn waves are the equivalent of the capital escalation waves.
iu'ra
Criterion.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#8 - 2014-04-07 10:58:37 UTC
I will definitely need to try that Vargur! By solo I mean 1 person. I will have a mind linked Loki boosting Armor and the Sig Radius Skirmish link. Also for implants I will be using: Genos 1-4, 7% armor rep cycle time, 5% turret tracking, 5% Cap capacity, 5% armor rep amount, and 3% to armor hp/rep amount. Exile pills are also an option but I have 3x Heavy Nos, 4 Cap Rechargers, and 5 Capacitor Power Relays for when it gets hairy but I was informed that once I dropped below 30% cap then I am dead?
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
#9 - 2014-04-07 12:17:26 UTC
why not use solo dread?
Torrent Rage
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-04-07 12:21:07 UTC
I would advise you first to try a vital core or instrumental core and see how your ship handles them. One of them has battleships that orbit at 25km so you can NOS them, while the other has battleships that orbit at 65km. Go search sleepless keeper and sleepless sentinel and get the website that tells you their stats.

I almost lost my golem trying to solo the one where they orbit at 65km because I ran out of navy 800s. I warped into the site with 42 in my cargo hold and 6 in my cap booster. It alone does not keep up with the neuts from the 4 battleships, and within a few minutes I found myself permanently overheating my cap booster to get boost cycles and to keep my invuls on.

When I was down to 2 reloads left I also had to have a buddy bring in 5 more 800's because there were still 2 battleships on field.

Now on the other site that has the battleships that orbit at 25km, it is much easier since you can NOS a significant portion of the cap back that they will be neuting. Though the site is much longer because they have about 90k ehp. 44k armor @65% resists and 22k structure and neut 180 cap every 10s. The battleships that orbit at 65km have 22k armor @65% resists and 11k structure, and neut 120 cap every 10s. The site sounds easier with the differences, but it is significantly harder without being able to NOS.

I'm sure that you'll be able to take a vargur to much better places than a golem, because from my experience the golem is pretty ******* ****** at fitting when you walk into wormholes, and the vargur has it much easier. With the ability to fit more than 1 NOS and cap booster.

Tl;Dr bring a cap booster with a fuckton of navy 800's
iu'ra
Criterion.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#11 - 2014-04-07 13:53:02 UTC
Oska Rus wrote:
why not use solo dread?


I am unsure of how well that works out but I don't feel comfortable using a Dread solo to clear a C6.
The Paladin fit I have is roughly this:

Mega Pulse Laser II x4
Bastion Module x1
Imperial Navy Large EMP Smartbomb x1
Corpus X-Type Heavy Nosferatu x2

Large Capacitor Battery II x1
Imperial Navy Cap Rechargers x3

Corpum A-Type Large Armor Repairer x1
Corpum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane x2
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Capacitor Power Relay x1
Imperial Navy Heat Sink x2

Large Auxillary Nano Pump x2

Along with the various fittings to swap out but how does this look? I need to put it into Eft.
Keep in mind I have more Cap modules as well

Torrent Rage
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-04-07 14:14:42 UTC
iu'ra wrote:
Oska Rus wrote:
why not use solo dread?


I am unsure of how well that works out but I don't feel comfortable using a Dread solo to clear a C6.
The Paladin fit I have is roughly this:

Mega Pulse Laser II x4
Bastion Module x1
Imperial Navy Large EMP Smartbomb x1
Corpus X-Type Heavy Nosferatu x2

Large Capacitor Battery II x1
Imperial Navy Cap Rechargers x3

Corpum A-Type Large Armor Repairer x1
Corpum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane x2
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Capacitor Power Relay x1
Imperial Navy Heat Sink x2

Large Auxillary Nano Pump x2

Along with the various fittings to swap out but how does this look? I need to put it into Eft.
Keep in mind I have more Cap modules as well



No I don't think it would, and here's the trick to seeing if it can keep cap up. Make a Bhaal with all level V skills in EFT, give it a talisman set, and then put 1 meta 4 neut from that bhaal on your paladin. If it can keep cap close to stable on that, then you are good. As -70 cap/s is close to what you should be expecting from neuts on the sleeper battleships.
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#13 - 2014-04-07 14:21:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
Torrent Rage wrote:
I would advise you first to try a vital core or instrumental core and see how your ship handles them. One of them has battleships that orbit at 25km so you can NOS them, while the other has battleships that orbit at 65km. Go search sleepless keeper and sleepless sentinel and get the website that tells you their stats.


Those are tough but they are nothing like the world of pain if you get a wave with a few or more sleepless guardians - which IIRC have twice the EHP of a sentinel give or take and neut for 3 times as much heh.

Quote:

[Rorqual, bigdomithing]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Capital Neutron Saturation Injector I
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Corpus B-Type Heavy Nosferatu
Corpus B-Type Heavy Nosferatu
Capital Tractor Beam II
Imperial Navy Large EMP Smartbomb

Capital Capacitor Control Circuit II
Capital Capacitor Control Circuit II
Capital Capacitor Control Circuit I

Garde II x5
Salvage Drone I x5
Mobile Depot x1
Mobile Tractor Unit x1


(+some cap regen implants)

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Alundil
Rolled Out
#14 - 2014-04-07 15:01:37 UTC
Sith1s Spectre wrote:
Personally I think the biggest problem you will run into is how do you not get neuted out?

This. But good luck. Hopefully we find you.... For the sideline viewing... Yeah that's it, spectator only, yeah

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ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#15 - 2014-04-07 15:04:28 UTC
back when bastion first came out I was able to solo a Garrison on SISI using a paladin in a vanilla. It requires some careful MJDing around to kite, a ton of cap boosters and a lot of time.

I cant say for certain if numbers have changed much since that test, nor do iI have a fit on hand here at school, but I am fairly certain you could do it.

I will caution you though that it takes so long the isk/hour + the isk your risking probably doesn't beat highsec missions. Although the challenge is surely gonna get your heart pumping. If you have access to a system w/ effects you can exploit I am sure you could do it.

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