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Simple Solution to stabbed farming!

Author
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#61 - 2014-04-04 08:08:10 UTC
Syrias Bizniz wrote:
Allow dictors to bubble up in deadspace.


RANT ON!


+1

(for bubbles in low sec)

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Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#62 - 2014-04-04 13:21:35 UTC
Meliiza Proudmore wrote:


Stuff




I think you didn't fully understand what i was saying in the posting you answered.

I am totally fine with the possibility of these amounts of income.
However, not at the little effort and risk involved.

Just on a contrary:
While WH do give insane income, too, they involve a lot more effort. And it's also on the horizon, that it might get even less secure.
For getting the full bling in C5 / C6, you gotta warp in Capitals. You have to build them in the WH, you have to use them, and if you don't pay attention, you will lose them rather quick. Which is then not only a financial factor, but also a strategic one. But let's put this one aside, and get back to the main idea (which is btw definately not Bubbles in Lowsec, hacking minigames or other hilarious stuff).

I'd like to see it changed to a point where making income is tightly attached to the dedication to make and secure this income.
I like to see newbies coming to FW and learn PvP while also being able to fund it, but i hate the general guideline that they have to seperate their FW into making the dosh and doing PvP.
Meliiza Proudmore
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2014-04-04 23:44:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Meliiza Proudmore
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Meliiza Proudmore
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#64 - 2014-04-04 23:45:47 UTC
Syrias Bizniz wrote:


I'd like to see it changed to a point where making income is tightly attached to the dedication to make and secure this income.


You are raising the bar for the new FW player.
Pro PvP pilots with fat wallets and decent ships will be ok. But newbies will loose 100% of the time to fat cats who will be already there. For each friend newbie ask for help there will be more friends from the opposite side who already has experience and isk.

Syrias Bizniz wrote:


I like to see newbies coming to FW and learn PvP while also being able to fund it, but i hate the general guideline that they have to seperate their FW into making the dosh and doing PvP.


Your first quote contradicts with the second one. If you apply first statement on low sec it will face all the problems sov null sec has. This is exactly why low sec and null sec are different and has fun on its own.

Don't be greedy. Have fun. 7o
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#65 - 2014-04-05 01:37:17 UTC
Meliiza Proudmore wrote:
OP, I'm farming plexes to get a few mil isk in order to buy some frigs and phew phew.
Am I playing your sandbox wrong?

And just fyi: you can fit more than one scram.

You can plex without stabs if you check local and d-scan from time to time, I'm just sayin'.
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#66 - 2014-04-05 09:44:04 UTC
Meliiza Proudmore wrote:
Syrias Bizniz wrote:


I'd like to see it changed to a point where making income is tightly attached to the dedication to make and secure this income.


You are raising the bar for the new FW player.
Pro PvP pilots with fat wallets and decent ships will be ok. But newbies will loose 100% of the time to fat cats who will be already there. For each friend newbie ask for help there will be more friends from the opposite side who already has experience and isk.

Syrias Bizniz wrote:


I like to see newbies coming to FW and learn PvP while also being able to fund it, but i hate the general guideline that they have to seperate their FW into making the dosh and doing PvP.


Your first quote contradicts with the second one. If you apply first statement on low sec it will face all the problems sov null sec has. This is exactly why low sec and null sec are different and has fun on its own.

Don't be greedy. Have fun. 7o




I'm not sure what exactly you are telling me here, other than 'Please don't change my LP Farm-o-rama'.
I did nowhere indicate any mechanisms that would raise the bar for new FW players.
There can be solutions which prohibit the risk averse approach of bringing cloak and warpcore stabs, and still grant the same income that is achieveable right now.
If you're now going to tell me 'But a newbie will never stand a chance in a 1v1 against a vet', then you're limiting your view on possible solutions. It could very well be a 3v1 and still grant good payout. It's all about how the system is changed, how some really well thought out mechanisms would work.

Next up, I can't see any point on how such a change would make FW just like Nullsec.
Always remember:
Nullsec is 'Build your own empire'.
FW is 'You're at war with other empires'.
I can play my own empire however i want, but if i decide to go to war, i should actually fight in the war to get the rewards that are designed for the people fight in the war.


Next up: I am having fun, lots of it.

And if i were greedy, i can tell you, i'd be running 7 accounts, 4 of them in FW, idling warpcorestabbed and with a cloak in plexes while skilling towards a PvE Stealthbomber in case we hit Tier 4, the 5th account would be a max'd out Leadership alt, the 6th char would be a beef'd up 'Solo' Wtf Pwn-Mobile to blap everyone who tries to harass one of my 4 moneymaking alts, and the 7th would be a Falcon.

I'd be abusing the living sh*t out of FW.
Zheng He-Da
Industria Traho Incorporated
#67 - 2014-04-07 02:30:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Zheng He-Da
Syrias Bizniz wrote:

MADness

I am making more cash with three accounts in a month than your 7 FW "abusers" will manage in a year
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#68 - 2014-04-07 02:43:14 UTC
Zheng He-Da wrote:
Syrias Bizniz wrote:

MADness

I am making more cash with three accounts in a month than your 7 FW "abusers" will manage in a year

Um, well done? Doing what?

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.

Dan Carter Murray
#69 - 2014-04-07 07:02:11 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Syrias Bizniz wrote:
Allow dictors to bubble up in deadspace.


RANT ON!


Or they could just implement the same feature the ESS enjoys:

Activating the ESS causes the ESS to infinity point you as long as you arre within activation range.

Make it so you have to activate the "button". Doing so causes the button to target you and infinity point you. You can no longer cloak to get safe, and you can no longer warp to get safe without first leaving the button's sphere of influence.


i'd support this in lowsec if it didn't point pods in lowsec deadspace.

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Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#70 - 2014-04-07 11:25:18 UTC
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Syrias Bizniz wrote:
Allow dictors to bubble up in deadspace.


RANT ON!


Or they could just implement the same feature the ESS enjoys:

Activating the ESS causes the ESS to infinity point you as long as you arre within activation range.

Make it so you have to activate the "button". Doing so causes the button to target you and infinity point you. You can no longer cloak to get safe, and you can no longer warp to get safe without first leaving the button's sphere of influence.


i'd support this in lowsec if it didn't point pods in lowsec deadspace.


so all leet pvpers needs now structures to do tackling for them?
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#71 - 2014-04-07 12:02:13 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Syrias Bizniz wrote:
Allow dictors to bubble up in deadspace.


RANT ON!


Or they could just implement the same feature the ESS enjoys:

Activating the ESS causes the ESS to infinity point you as long as you arre within activation range.

Make it so you have to activate the "button". Doing so causes the button to target you and infinity point you. You can no longer cloak to get safe, and you can no longer warp to get safe without first leaving the button's sphere of influence.


i'd support this in lowsec if it didn't point pods in lowsec deadspace.


so all leet pvpers needs now structures to do tackling for them?




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