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So pod kills, in secure space, are just bullying, are not they?

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Uncle Sidney McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#61 - 2014-04-06 18:26:40 UTC
Tippia wrote:

See, your Ma is also a griefer! Look at that domestic abuse! Shocked
She definitely deserves a podding.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj7D65SFOhM
Mag's
Azn Empire
#62 - 2014-04-06 18:27:14 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
YOU ARE RUINING MY LIFE!

**storms off to her bedroom and listens to Dark Wave Industrial music at max volume**

See, your Ma is also a griefer! Look at that domestic abuse! Shocked
She definitely deserves a podding.
MILF alert.

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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#63 - 2014-04-06 18:28:52 UTC  |  Edited by: KnowUsByTheDead
Ramona McCandless wrote:




Everything I wear in angst-mode is made of fishnet

EVERYTHING



Well then, you Ramona, get the Angst Stamp Of Approval™

Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!

Nothing says angst like fishnet on top of fishnet.

Blink

*edit

I fixed quote. CCP...fix forums. Kthanks.

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#64 - 2014-04-06 18:33:17 UTC
There are so many reasons to destroy the pod...

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2014-04-06 18:36:16 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
There are so many reasons to destroy the pod...


I blame kinder surprise for teaching me that every egg has a present inside.







BUT IF I GET ONE MORE ******* PUZZLE I SWEAR TO [deity] I AM GOING TO AWOX SOMEONE!

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.

Django Askulf
Black Rebel Death Squad
#66 - 2014-04-06 18:40:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Django Askulf
Is it just me, or does everyone else find the gold ones almost irresistible?
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#67 - 2014-04-06 18:56:27 UTC
Django Askulf wrote:
Is it just me, or does everyone else find the gold ones almost irresistible?


As said above, we've been conditioned by Kinder Suprise Eggs that they hold presents inside, and a Golden Egg must have some special prize inside no? So POD IT!

That said, generally you can warp out fast enough to avoid being podded, reason you make sure you fly at least in a shuttle.

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#68 - 2014-04-06 19:01:14 UTC
I love how after 4 pages, not one person has agreed with the OP.

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2014-04-06 19:03:37 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:
I love how after 4 pages, not one person has agreed with the OP.

Yea. Reminds me, where is Xenuria?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#70 - 2014-04-06 19:06:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Jake Warbird wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
I love how after 4 pages, not one person has agreed with the OP.

Yea. Reminds me, where is Xenuria?
Probably trying to find his fedora now that he's on the CSM ballot list.

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2014-04-06 19:08:44 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
I love how after 4 pages, not one person has agreed with the OP.

Yea. Reminds me, where is Xenuria?
Probably trying to find his fedora now that he's on the CSM ballot list.

Again? Man, I can't wait for his 'My body is ready remix 2014'.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#72 - 2014-04-06 19:12:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Jake Warbird wrote:
Again? Man, I can't wait for his 'My body is ready remix 2014'.
Every election needs a Screaming Lord Sutch

His election campaign should be "interesting" to say the least. Cue tinfoil about conspiracies, transgender persecution/ discrimination etc.

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Brusanan
Free State Project
#73 - 2014-04-06 19:12:58 UTC
Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:
Why would you consider it bullying? It´s just another thing to shoot and specially in hi sec it can get you very expensive kills.

This.

This is a problem we are going to be running into a lot for a while. The Eve population let a bunch of angry carebears get away with calling one case of tear extraction "bullying", so now they are going to start crying "bullying" in every case where they can't see the benefit through their carebear-eyes in hopes that CCP will again step in to hold their hand and protect them.
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2014-04-06 19:18:50 UTC
Brusanan wrote:
This is a problem we are going to be running into a lot for a while. The Eve population let a bunch of angry carebears get away with calling one case of tear extraction "bullying", so now they are going to start crying "bullying" in every case where they can't see the benefit through their carebear-eyes in hopes that CCP will again step in to hold their hand and protect them.

I refer you to my earlier post.
KuroVolt wrote:
Oh dont you start.

I remember seeing people like the OP back in 2007 all the way up to present day, Someone having a silly opinion about the game is nothing new.
So dont try to turn this into a "EVE is getting soft" kinda thing.

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.

Brusanan
Free State Project
#75 - 2014-04-06 19:53:22 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
Brusanan wrote:
This is a problem we are going to be running into a lot for a while. The Eve population let a bunch of angry carebears get away with calling one case of tear extraction "bullying", so now they are going to start crying "bullying" in every case where they can't see the benefit through their carebear-eyes in hopes that CCP will again step in to hold their hand and protect them.

I refer you to my earlier post.
KuroVolt wrote:
Oh dont you start.

I remember seeing people like the OP back in 2007 all the way up to present day, Someone having a silly opinion about the game is nothing new.
So dont try to turn this into a "EVE is getting soft" kinda thing.

First of all, the list of ways that CCP has made Eve softer since 2007 is pretty damn long. It's undeniable that Eve is getting soft (but I'm sure you will keep denying it anyway).

But that wasn't the point I was making. My point was that as soon as you allow someone to get away with using the "bullying" tag for interactions in or about a video game, other people see that and follow by example. Because carebears saw that using the "bullying" tag, even when completely unjustified, gets results, "bullying" could become their new go-to whine on the forums.
Silvara Nocturn
Nocturn Industries
#76 - 2014-04-06 20:31:49 UTC
In quake you frag people, in eve you pod people. I don't think it means more than that. The only difference is the respawn cost.
Silvara Nocturn
Nocturn Industries
#77 - 2014-04-06 20:35:15 UTC
Brusanan wrote:
Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:
Why would you consider it bullying? It´s just another thing to shoot and specially in hi sec it can get you very expensive kills.

This.

This is a problem we are going to be running into a lot for a while. The Eve population let a bunch of angry carebears get away with calling one case of tear extraction "bullying", so now they are going to start crying "bullying" in every case where they can't see the benefit through their carebear-eyes in hopes that CCP will again step in to hold their hand and protect them.


Don't be surprised if this a false flag post to rustle up the villians.
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2014-04-06 20:37:08 UTC
Brusanan wrote:
KuroVolt wrote:
Brusanan wrote:
This is a problem we are going to be running into a lot for a while. The Eve population let a bunch of angry carebears get away with calling one case of tear extraction "bullying", so now they are going to start crying "bullying" in every case where they can't see the benefit through their carebear-eyes in hopes that CCP will again step in to hold their hand and protect them.

I refer you to my earlier post.
KuroVolt wrote:
Oh dont you start.

I remember seeing people like the OP back in 2007 all the way up to present day, Someone having a silly opinion about the game is nothing new.
So dont try to turn this into a "EVE is getting soft" kinda thing.

First of all, the list of ways that CCP has made Eve softer since 2007 is pretty damn long. It's undeniable that Eve is getting soft (but I'm sure you will keep denying it anyway).

But that wasn't the point I was making. My point was that as soon as you allow someone to get away with using the "bullying" tag for interactions in or about a video game, other people see that and follow by example. Because carebears saw that using the "bullying" tag, even when completely unjustified, gets results, "bullying" could become their new go-to whine on the forums.


Man, I see you have some very strong opinions on the topic.
I could swear I can actually feel the resentment when you are saying "carebears".

For that reason I am not going to continue this discussion, lest I trigger an emotional reaction from you.

I wouldnt want you to feel like I am bullying you. Blink

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#79 - 2014-04-06 21:15:55 UTC
Nhanderu Mbaekuaa wrote:
Or perhaps I'd say bullying and bragging, but I am not sure if they are different things. Let's stick with bullying. Ok, it is done to everyone, so it is not serious bullying; it is not the usual situation where a gang concentrates all the mocking and pressure in one or two newbies selected at random from the new flock. It is probably closer to peer-presure in scientific-technical communities, or even to a fraternity initiation ritual. Not that I like the guys at Skulls and Bones.

Usual arguments for this generic kill are:

- "I can". Everything told, here.
- "silent them". Er??? Pirate-wise, it increases the visibility of the system in the map. By killing the pod, you get it silenced in local... and a big danger mark in the global map, telling everyone to carry more force, or more caution, where crossing your system.
-"raise the price of implants". Ok if you manufacture them, but otherwise?
-"as real life". It is fascinating how many people in EVE seem to play from favelas in Brasil suburbia. Wait, I have been there and I have never been killed inside of the pod.
-"trophy" That could have sense, because in the killboards a hi-sec pod killing is, arguably, scored same that a battle-situation low sec.


What I am a bit surprised is that the times this topic emerges in the forum, people does not like to look at the ritual/etnological side of the issue. I'd like to heard about it. Does it build community? Does it correct some problem in the game, by hardeninng the players?


In short, no. There are legitimate reasons to kill pods in any area of space.

And EVE is a PvP spaceships game,. Shooting other at other players needs no excuse in any case.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Tweek Etimua
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2014-04-06 22:05:08 UTC
Yes get use to it.