EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hello. I was curious how many 'useless' skills there are in EVE. What I mean by useless is a skill that does nothing by putting a level into it. For example, in DUST, getting rank 5 on a certain skill does nothing for the player. I was wondering if there were any in EVE that do nothing or if there are skills that do nothing other than just unlock equipment/modules. I know that all the Ship Command skills do give you bonuses but they are tied to ships; those are not useless.

Thanks in advance and have a good day.

There are a couple of skill levels in the T2 indy area which are completely useless.

Industrial Construction has no point at all past 3. Levels 4 and 5 unlock no skills, no mods and no blueprints.
Battleship construction V has no point, nothing requires it.

Only two that I know of that really have no use at all.

Too bad they took out Hull Tanking though

But yeah, there are very few skills that are useless ... in general it's just that they're useless to train past a certain point (e.g. L3 or L4) because they don't have a per-level bonus associated with them.

Soon as CCP did something crazy (like attributing some kind of 1% speed reduction/level on mfg time for the relevant skills), you'd see people training them up ...

Semi "useless" skill levels to the average player:

Multitasking V: (Very few ships can manage more than 10 targets; in order to use this fit you'd need a very specialized fit).

Specific reprocessing skills: Right now these are useless to a point, as you can get perfect refining without training them to V. This will be changing in the next expansion. A massive refining nerf will make these skills much more essential to miners.

Astronautics engineering: Literally does nothing.

T2 Industry skills: as mentioned above.

Jury Rigging V: I could be wrong about this, but the most common rigs that only require the basic "rigging" skill without a specific rigging skill do not have drawbacks. (aka, capacitor rigs) T2 rigs are unlocked at rigging IV. So training V is "useless".

Defender Missiles: This is a pretty much useless weapon system. If it ever gets fixed, then this skill may actually be useful.

Sleeper/Takmahl/Talocan/Yan Jung technology: These somewhat rare skills are only used in the manufacturing of storyline modules. As it stands, most storyline blueprints don't require level V in these (the only one I know of is a cloaking device which you can get WITHOUT building it). Most storyline modules aren't better than their T2 counterparts, so these should only be trained as needed.

Criminal Connections: This skill is redundant, unless they've fixed it. As far as I'm aware every corp affected by this skill will either also be affected by diplomacy or connections, and they do not stack.

Strategic cruiser skills: Strategic cruisers are bonused by their subsystems, not by their "spaceship command" skills. Their command skills only benefit how long you can overheat them. If you don't plan to overheat, this skill is "useless"

Leadership and corp management skills aren't necessarily useful to the average player. They're very specific and not everyone needs them, but they aren't "useless".

The skills aren't useless, but the upper levels are. There is nothing gained by training Industrial Construction past 3. Zip, zero, nada.

Weird.
I assumed you only needed the appropriate science skills.
I guess that makes sense though.

BS construction V is indeed completely useless and so is outpost construction IV - V.

Some other skills are also considered useless to train to V but they still do give an effect even if that effect is so minimal that it might as well not exist such as tactical shield manipulation or that region wide trading skill.

This, I trained it to 3 as a rookie and as I've never trained shield skills, I'm leaving it there and would like to remove the SP that are in this skill entirely.

Even if you shield tank, you want to leave this skill at 4.

Let me highlight something:

Very few ships.


He doesn't say there are none, he says that there are very few.

Basically, most dime-in-a-dozen people won't need Multitasking V.

So:
Battleship Construction 5 is a dead level (dead level it does nothing for you at that point).
Industrial Construction 4 and 5 are dead levels.
Outpost Construction 4 and 5 are dead levels
Astronautic Engineering is completely worthless (but it is only because CCP didn't want to remove the skill; it exists as a joke)

Are there any others that y'all are aware of?