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[PIE] Kameira Program

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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#21 - 2014-04-06 12:12:23 UTC
Good to see DSTON coming to their senses. Smile

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Kelly Rabbit
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2014-04-06 13:23:51 UTC
Talking to a Sabik is a waste of time. Burn them and move on.

Better to die for the Empress than live for yourself.

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#23 - 2014-04-06 15:44:27 UTC
All Kameiras who have forsaken their oaths and refused service to Further Foodstuffs and other legal Amarrian corporations (as the Disciples of Ston/Molok have alleged) have not only forfeited their lives but stand utterly condemned before a holy and righteous God. Such traitorous Kameiras ought to suffer the most exemplary punishment imaginable — to be blooded alive, one by one in front of their peers — and the holoreel of their punishment must be played before all Kameiras everywhere so that they understand that God Himself commands their service to Further Foodstuffs (and the rest) and the punishment for those who derelict such duty is the punishment for those whom God has given over to destruction — ritual blooding without mercy.

That the Empire does not do this is yet more evidence of its slide into liberalism. Amen. Amarr Victor.
Goa Chai
Doomheim
#24 - 2014-04-06 15:59:00 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
All Kameiras who have forsaken their oaths and refused service to Further Foodstuffs and other legal Amarrian corporations (as the Disciples of Ston/Molok have alleged) have not only forfeited their lives but stand utterly condemned before a holy and righteous God. Such traitorous Kameiras ought to suffer the most exemplary punishment imaginable — to be blooded alive, one by one in front of their peers — and the holoreel of their punishment must be played before all Kameiras everywhere so that they understand that God Himself commands their service to Further Foodstuffs (and the rest) and the punishment for those who derelict such duty is the punishment for those whom God has given over to destruction — ritual blooding without mercy.

That the Empire does not do this is yet more evidence of its slide into liberalism. Amen. Amarr Victor.
So in other words, Kameiras who grow tired of killing for a zealous theocracy that views them in much the same regard as one might view a well trained slaverhound, can become freelance mercenaries, rejoin their ancestral people and live as free individuals within the Minmatar Republic, or if their conditioning allows, even set aside their violent pasts and enjoy a life of peace and prosperity within the Gallente Federation.

Once again the Amarr Empire shoots itself in the foot with it's own hardline zealotry, and once again the Federation stands ready to welcome those affected and offer a chance at a fresh start and a better life within a culturally diverse progressive society that is "the only true democracy in New Eden". Cool
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2014-04-06 16:06:51 UTC
Goa Chai wrote:
So in other words, Kameiras who grow tired of killing for a zealous theocracy that views them in much the same regard as one might view a well trained slaverhound, can become freelance mercenaries, rejoin their ancestral people and live as free individuals within the Minmatar Republic, or if their conditioning allows, even set aside their violent pasts and enjoy a life of peace and prosperity within the Gallente Federation.


Were it so easy.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#26 - 2014-04-06 16:17:42 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Such traitorous Kameiras ought to suffer the most exemplary punishment imaginable — to be blooded alive, one by one in front of their peers

...

ritual blooding without mercy.


Is the letting of blood a prescribed punishment in traditional Amarrian culture, according to the scriptures? I did a smart search of my copy of the annotated Compact Scriptures (clearly I don't have access to the whole thing), and I found a lot of mention of bloodletting, but never as a deliberate punishment for transgression. Am I missing something in the interpretation, or is this in a more obscure portion of the body of work? Or is this heterodoxy?

I'm sorry for the questions, but I'm not sure whether I should be classifying Mr Nauplius as orthodox or Sani Sabik.
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#27 - 2014-04-06 16:26:21 UTC
Scherezad wrote:
Is the letting of blood a prescribed punishment in traditional Amarrian culture, according to the scriptures? I did a smart search of my copy of the annotated Compact Scriptures (clearly I don't have access to the whole thing), and I found a lot of mention of bloodletting, but never as a deliberate punishment for transgression. Am I missing something in the interpretation, or is this in a more obscure portion of the body of work? Or is this heterodoxy?

I'm sorry for the questions, but I'm not sure whether I should be classifying Mr Nauplius as orthodox or Sani Sabik.


Nauphlius' heresy is rather particular to him. It is certainly not orthodox and even the Sani Sabik have standards that he might fail to meet.

"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13

Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#28 - 2014-04-06 17:49:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
Bloodletting to a degree is present in the orthodox faith. Consider flagellation and other physical punishments that draw blood.

What Nauplius promotes, however, is the full sacrificial Bleeding of a person and the use of that blood in rituals or for consumption. That is Sabik and strictly heretical. Nauplius is certainly not orthodox, and frankly his name should be struck for his many severe transgressions against God and Amarr.

Regardless, discussion of such things is not the purpose of this thread.
Kelly Rabbit
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2014-04-06 18:49:01 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
All Kameiras who have forsaken their oaths and refused service to Further Foodstuffs and other legal Amarrian corporations (as the Disciples of Ston/Molok have alleged) have not only forfeited their lives but stand utterly condemned before a holy and righteous God. Such traitorous Kameiras ought to suffer the most exemplary punishment imaginable — to be blooded alive, one by one in front of their peers — and the holoreel of their punishment must be played before all Kameiras everywhere so that they understand that God Himself commands their service to Further Foodstuffs (and the rest) and the punishment for those who derelict such duty is the punishment for those whom God has given over to destruction — ritual blooding without mercy.

That the Empire does not do this is yet more evidence of its slide into liberalism. Amen. Amarr Victor.


One day, heretic, I am going to make you eat your words. But I hope you leave enough room for my fist, because I am going to ram it into your stomach and break your God damned spine.

Goa Chai wrote:

So in other words, Kameiras who grow tired of killing for a zealous theocracy that views them in much the same regard as one might view a well trained slaverhound, can become freelance mercenaries, rejoin their ancestral people and live as free individuals within the Minmatar Republic, or if their conditioning allows, even set aside their violent pasts and enjoy a life of peace and prosperity within the Gallente Federation.

Once again the Amarr Empire shoots itself in the foot with it's own hardline zealotry, and once again the Federation stands ready to welcome those affected and offer a chance at a fresh start and a better life within a culturally diverse progressive society that is "the only true democracy in New Eden".


Kameiras have absolutely nothing in common with the subhumans currently residing in the Republic. That very thought is offensive. As for your 'democracy,' the Holy Amarr Empire was exploring space while the Gallente were flinging fecal matter at each other and using grunts to communicate.

Better to die for the Empress than live for yourself.

Sanguina Dieudonne
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-04-06 19:15:09 UTC
Scherezad wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Such traitorous Kameiras ought to suffer the most exemplary punishment imaginable — to be blooded alive, one by one in front of their peers

...

ritual blooding without mercy.


Is the letting of blood a prescribed punishment in traditional Amarrian culture, according to the scriptures? I did a smart search of my copy of the annotated Compact Scriptures (clearly I don't have access to the whole thing), and I found a lot of mention of bloodletting, but never as a deliberate punishment for transgression. Am I missing something in the interpretation, or is this in a more obscure portion of the body of work? Or is this heterodoxy?

I'm sorry for the questions, but I'm not sure whether I should be classifying Mr Nauplius as orthodox or Sani Sabik.


The best categorization for Nauplius is confused. At this point he resembles some Gallente girl that dresses in red and black clothing, uses too much makeup, and gets tattoos of Sabik Scripture. The only difference is that Nauplius has greater capability for causing death that some teenaged Jin Mei whose parents just don't understand her.
Goa Chai
Doomheim
#31 - 2014-04-06 21:24:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Goa Chai
Kelly Rabbit wrote:
As for your 'democracy,' the Holy Amarr Empire was exploring space while the Gallente were flinging fecal matter at each other and using grunts to communicate.
Yes, bulky antiquated ship designs and the need to borrow weapon systems from other factions then retrofit them onto your existing fleets to remain competitive reflects that.
Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#32 - 2014-04-06 23:06:44 UTC
One full brigade/regiment of Kameiras (3500) was transfered today to the PIE re-deployment program. Captain Shutaq has been a man of reason and decorum and a pleasure to work with to this point.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-04-07 05:40:53 UTC
Goa Chai wrote:
Kelly Rabbit wrote:
As for your 'democracy,' the Holy Amarr Empire was exploring space while the Gallente were flinging fecal matter at each other and using grunts to communicate.
Yes, bulky antiquated ship designs and the need to borrow weapon systems from other factions then retrofit them onto your existing fleets to remain competitive reflects that.

I would like to remind to everyone, that democracy is the worst and inefficient management form.
Only in a democracy a voice of a scientist can be equal to a voice of a janitor.
Down with this thing.

Promoting a democracy is a crime against humanity.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#34 - 2014-04-07 09:13:34 UTC
Whilst Kameiras are slowly becoming obsolete in the rise of the Clone Soldier programme, they still have their uses. As such, the request to merely donate them? Preposterous.

We have a number of them, 'just idly sitting in our hangars', as much as PIE has a number of currency, just idly sitting in their wallets. So, if you're interested in a purchase, contact me and we'll sort something out. If that doesn't strike your fancy, fear not; I'm sure they'll find an interested buyer with better business skills.
  • Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim

Angels are never far...

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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#35 - 2014-04-09 10:44:56 UTC
The Amarr delegation of the Aurora Arcology has decided to transfer 10 squads of Kameiras to the PIE cause. May they serve to protect Amarr civilians in many ways.

Providing a new home for refugees in the Aurora Arcology

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#36 - 2014-04-09 18:56:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
Goa Chai wrote:
So in other words....


So in other words, you don't know anything about Kameiras or their culture and you've been completely brainwashed by your own propaganda to the point where you can't even tell an Amarrian from a Blood Raider.

Goa Chai wrote:
Yes, bulky antiquated ship designs and the need to borrow weapon systems from other factions then retrofit them onto your existing fleets to remain competitive reflects that.


Congratulations, you have just summarized Minmater ship design in one sentence.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Marth Young
Young Knights LLC
#37 - 2014-04-09 21:17:08 UTC
Why would you need more soldiers. Your alliance does have a corporation that is dictated strictly towards Dusters. A single one of them can take down full platoons of mortals?

It seems repetitive, there is also the Kameira Lodge a Duster corp owned by the Amarr Empire.

I guess if you have something use it?
Arnulf Ogunkoya
Clan Ogunkoya
Electus Matari
#38 - 2014-04-09 21:29:33 UTC
Marth Young wrote:
Why would you need more soldiers. Your alliance does have a corporation that is dictated strictly towards Dusters. A single one of them can take down full platoons of mortals?

It seems repetitive, there is also the Kameira Lodge a Duster corp owned by the Amarr Empire.

I guess if you have something use it?


Because if you want something obliterated you use clones in powered armour.

If you want territory held you use regular troops. If you want a minimum of discipline issues you use elite formations like Kameiras or Vaklear.

Regards, Arnulf Ogunkoya.

Kale Silence
Doomheim
#39 - 2014-04-10 06:27:29 UTC
Arnulf Ogunkoya wrote:
Marth Young wrote:
Why would you need more soldiers. Your alliance does have a corporation that is dictated strictly towards Dusters. A single one of them can take down full platoons of mortals?

It seems repetitive, there is also the Kameira Lodge a Duster corp owned by the Amarr Empire.

I guess if you have something use it?


Because if you want something obliterated you use clones in powered armour.

If you want territory held you use regular troops. If you want a minimum of discipline issues you use elite formations like Kameiras or Vaklear.



Is that supposed to be an insult? It looks like you're praising Kameiras to me.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#40 - 2014-04-10 12:39:59 UTC
O people of PIE, the wrath of the Red God does wax large against you.

You do offend His holy eyes with your liberalism — you apologize for things for which God needs no apology; you seek the approval of reprobate sinners with your humanitarian mercy missions; you reject the teachings of Nauplius, a Prophet of God who has delivered unto you True Scripture and you have waged war against him. And so God withdraws His blessings from you and judges you unworthy of a new Reclaiming.

But there is yet hope for you, for you are only wayward and not reprobates given over to destruction. God demands blood sacrifice to wash away your sins and prove yourselves worthy of a new Reclaiming. And in the blood of the Kameiras shall be made a most glorious sacrifice indeed. This does Nauplius, a Prophet of God command unto you: gather at the Munory Bonfire in Cruors and Ashimmus and Bhaalgorns and make blood sacrifice of the Kamerias; offer one part of the blood unto God and take the rest, for the blood of the Kamerias shall grant you honor and brotherhood.

The shock and awe of your blood sacrifice of Kameiras shall reach all New Eden and make of your enemies trembling husks. The Golden Fleet must be splattered with Red. Amen. Amarr Victor.