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balthazar blue
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-04-05 13:38:15 UTC
Puzzled me for a while now.

If someone takes something from one of your Jet Cans and then gets a suspect flag, are you then allowed to engage them without CONCORD interference?

Secondly, if you are allowed to engage without CONCORD coming along and you do so, what goes on with Kill Rights? Will they get one against you because you shot at them first?
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#2 - 2014-04-05 14:28:28 UTC
balthazar blue wrote:
Puzzled me for a while now.

If someone takes something from one of your Jet Cans and then gets a suspect flag, are you then allowed to engage them without CONCORD interference?

Secondly, if you are allowed to engage without CONCORD coming along and you do so, what goes on with Kill Rights? Will they get one against you because you shot at them first?


Yes, you can freely engage anyone with a suspect flag in any space without interference from CONCORD or sentry guns. And you should do so in every situation.Blink

There are no killrights involved. Killrights are only given for criminal acts of violence. In this case the violence would be lawful on your part.

www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com

Vote Sabriz Adoudel and Tora Bushido for CSMX. Keep the Evil in EVE!
balthazar blue
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-04-05 16:26:35 UTC
Thank you very much sir, and nice addition to the first part ;)
Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-04-05 17:56:47 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:


Yes, you can freely engage anyone with a suspect flag in any space without interference from CONCORD or sentry guns. And you should do so in every situation.Blink

There are no killrights involved. Killrights are only given for criminal acts of violence. In this case the violence would be lawful on your part.


The above bolded part is a genuinely terrible "advice" that will work horribly against you.
The ones who go suspect on you 99% of the times will do it in the hopes that you DO shoot at them, and then they can shoot at you aswell, and trust me when I say, they will kill you.

Ignore the suspects unless you have friends to help you out, and dont throw what you dont want into jet cans.
Solecist Project
#5 - 2014-04-05 18:10:12 UTC
thief.

:(

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Anslo
Scope Works
#6 - 2014-04-05 19:02:55 UTC
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:


Yes, you can freely engage anyone with a suspect flag in any space without interference from CONCORD or sentry guns. And you should do so in every situation.Blink

There are no killrights involved. Killrights are only given for criminal acts of violence. In this case the violence would be lawful on your part.


The above bolded part is a genuinely terrible "advice" that will work horribly against you.
The ones who go suspect on you 99% of the times will do it in the hopes that you DO shoot at them, and then they can shoot at you aswell, and trust me when I say, they will kill you.

Ignore the suspects unless you have friends to help you out, and dont throw what you dont want into jet cans.

This. This 'person' is trying to get you killed to enforce their views of the sandbox. Ignore them. But, if you have backup like a sniper of logi ship, kill the griefing bastard.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#7 - 2014-04-05 22:28:58 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:


Yes, you can freely engage anyone with a suspect flag in any space without interference from CONCORD or sentry guns. And you should do so in every situation.Blink

There are no killrights involved. Killrights are only given for criminal acts of violence. In this case the violence would be lawful on your part.


The above bolded part is a genuinely terrible "advice" that will work horribly against you.
The ones who go suspect on you 99% of the times will do it in the hopes that you DO shoot at them, and then they can shoot at you aswell, and trust me when I say, they will kill you.

Ignore the suspects unless you have friends to help you out, and dont throw what you dont want into jet cans.

This. This 'person' is trying to get you killed to enforce their views of the sandbox. Ignore them. But, if you have backup like a sniper of logi ship, kill the griefing bastard.


You, sir, are a poor sport.

www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com

Vote Sabriz Adoudel and Tora Bushido for CSMX. Keep the Evil in EVE!
Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#8 - 2014-04-06 01:18:32 UTC
balthazar blue wrote:
Puzzled me for a while now.

If someone takes something from one of your Jet Cans and then gets a suspect flag, are you then allowed to engage them without CONCORD interference?

Secondly, if you are allowed to engage without CONCORD coming along and you do so, what goes on with Kill Rights? Will they get one against you because you shot at them first?

This person is probably just confiscating the ore you illegally mined because of the lack of a mining permit.

So you should not shoot him, but say tanks in local and send 10mil ISK for the permit to him, which is required by the law of highsec, the CODE.
Anslo
Scope Works
#9 - 2014-04-06 02:44:34 UTC
Alyth Nerun wrote:
balthazar blue wrote:
Puzzled me for a while now.

If someone takes something from one of your Jet Cans and then gets a suspect flag, are you then allowed to engage them without CONCORD interference?

Secondly, if you are allowed to engage without CONCORD coming along and you do so, what goes on with Kill Rights? Will they get one against you because you shot at them first?

This person is probably just confiscating the ore you illegally mined because of the lack of a mining permit.

So you should not shoot him, but say tanks in local and send 10mil ISK for the permit to him, which is required by the law of highsec, the CODE.

Or we could just hell camp you and prevent you from doing anything. How about that? :)

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Michael Ignis Archangel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-04-06 02:55:20 UTC
Anslo wrote:

Or we could just hell camp you and prevent you from doing anything. How about that? :)


How about that? Sounds like it would be fun without any bubbles or... you know... people who know what they're talking about.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#11 - 2014-04-06 09:38:36 UTC
Michael Ignis Archangel wrote:
Anslo wrote:

Or we could just hell camp you and prevent you from doing anything. How about that? :)


How about that? Sounds like it would be fun without any bubbles or... you know... people who know what they're talking about.


Yeah I was wondering that too. I guess he heard the term from a real player once and is repeating it, without having asked what it means.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#12 - 2014-04-06 10:31:57 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Alyth Nerun wrote:
balthazar blue wrote:
Puzzled me for a while now.

If someone takes something from one of your Jet Cans and then gets a suspect flag, are you then allowed to engage them without CONCORD interference?

Secondly, if you are allowed to engage without CONCORD coming along and you do so, what goes on with Kill Rights? Will they get one against you because you shot at them first?

This person is probably just confiscating the ore you illegally mined because of the lack of a mining permit.

So you should not shoot him, but say tanks in local and send 10mil ISK for the permit to him, which is required by the law of highsec, the CODE.

Or we could just hell camp you and prevent you from doing anything. How about that? :)

Sure, why not. Make sure you write here how it worked out.
Jared Lennox
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-04-06 10:50:30 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Alyth Nerun wrote:
balthazar blue wrote:
Puzzled me for a while now.

If someone takes something from one of your Jet Cans and then gets a suspect flag, are you then allowed to engage them without CONCORD interference?

Secondly, if you are allowed to engage without CONCORD coming along and you do so, what goes on with Kill Rights? Will they get one against you because you shot at them first?

This person is probably just confiscating the ore you illegally mined because of the lack of a mining permit.

So you should not shoot him, but say tanks in local and send 10mil ISK for the permit to him, which is required by the law of highsec, the CODE.

Or we could just hell camp you and prevent you from doing anything. How about that? :)


We have been ganking all day every day as 30+ people and guess what? None of our attempts are interrupted at all. In fact in the anti-ganking channel your fellow white knights started to give up their hopes about it. Hahaha bring any ECM, smartbomb ship you want. THE CODE WILL NEVER BE STOPPED mwhahahaha

http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html
Hlokk Skoggangur
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2014-04-06 11:52:53 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Michael Ignis Archangel wrote:
Anslo wrote:

Or we could just hell camp you and prevent you from doing anything. How about that? :)


How about that? Sounds like it would be fun without any bubbles or... you know... people who know what they're talking about.


Yeah I was wondering that too. I guess he heard the term from a real player once and is repeating it, without having asked what it means.


I for one am interested in hearing more about this hell camp thing. It sure sounds like a winning strategy for high sec.
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-04-06 12:50:54 UTC
Anslo wrote:

Or we could just hell camp you and prevent you from doing anything. How about that? :)


No you couldn't....
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-04-06 16:01:22 UTC
I heard Anslo say he was going to hell camp some gankers on a podcast the other day. He seemed very excited about the idea of hisec station "hell camp" if a little light on the details. I can't wait to see how it turns out.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Weed Guy
Space Kush Dispensary
#17 - 2014-04-06 16:18:57 UTC
haha your jetcan got jacked lolz
balthazar blue
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2014-04-06 17:46:21 UTC
My jet can didn't get jacked, a mates did and I was checking something for him so lolz at you
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#19 - 2014-04-06 22:19:01 UTC
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-04-10 13:58:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
balthazar blue wrote:
Puzzled me for a while now.

If someone takes something from one of your Jet Cans and then gets a suspect flag, are you then allowed to engage them without CONCORD interference?

Secondly, if you are allowed to engage without CONCORD coming along and you do so, what goes on with Kill Rights? Will they get one against you because you shot at them first?

In EvE you must defend what is yours or someone will take it, if you let them you are a pansy.

Pull...the....trigger.

p.s.
If someone enters your mission pocket and goes suspect by looting your wrecks, you are also a pansy for not defending your wrecks. They are YOURS, do not let someone take the delicious chocolatey goodness inside away from you.

That is all.

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