EVE New Citizens Q&A

Believe it or not, they have, quite a bit. Even in the year iv been playing there have been Hudge (can't spell birthday hangover) quality of life changes.

The new player experience might leave a bit to be desired but it has the silver lining in that it excludes the stupid and the casual.

No one was calling you poor, the point people were making is the sub is so little (I spent like 6 months worth of sub on whiskey last night) that its worth throwing a bit of change at ccp to have the resticions lifted.

Exactly my though Oraac.


To OP: You do know that looks are the last thing you should be looking at with ships.

A ship is bought because you need it to do a certain job. Then you start looking at which options you have, in case of haulers for instance their bonuses (some have a bonus to align time, some are more sturdy, others have special holds). Then you make a fit to work those bonuses in your advantage and minimize the disadvantages of a ship. Then you do a cost vs efficiency calculation as well as a risk vs cost calculation (is this the ship that will do the job the quickest for the least amount of ISK invested while still being cheap enough that I can lose it without being upset).

And then, and ONLY then, if 2 ships come out equal (which 99.999% of the time isn't the case) you can start looking at the looks of a ship.




You buy a hauler (Iteron) because you want to haul stuff, not because it looks nice.


When I need to put some screws into a wall, I don't go buy a hammer because I like the look of a hammer better then a screwdriver, I buy the screwdriver as that is the tool I need to do the job at hand.

I'll +1 this. I had the exact same reaction several years ago. And, in fact, I did not subscribe because of this exact same problem. Looking back, I feel kind of silly about it, $15 isn't that much, but I was very upset at the time and understand the sentiment here. 14 days is long enough to get deeply invested in the game in terms of time and effort. People don't like being unexpectedly told, "no, you can't go there." 14 day trial should be limited in time, not scope.

BTW, I sent an e-mail to CCP support at the time. The response basically said, "we don't care, that's the way it is." Fair enough. I'm back now, but how much money would I have paid over the past 6 years if I had been able to do that one training? Maybe something else would have pissed me off anyway, but this really is an unnecessary "screw you and your trial account experience" kind of move.

But here's what you do: pay the $15 and move on. If, after a full month, you still don't like things, cancel. I kind of wish I had done that instead.

If that is enough for you to drop EVE, then it's best you got it out of the way now. Because that's such an infinitesimal annoyance compared to the anger this game will invoke in you. There's a reason when people ask me about EVE I tell then, "eh... you probably wouldn't like it."

I won't be responsible for their rage-quit.

Similar to a friend of mine, he wanted to try out EVE after he saw me playing it.

I warned him up front (knowing what type of games he really likes) that it might not be the game for him.
I did ensure that I would help him as much as possible but also adviced to start with a small subscription (he did the 3 months approach).

After about 2 months, he did decide that I was right and that it wasn't the game for him. He was very cool though about it...

This reminds me of abit back where some dude on a trial came on here complaining he was given a free hauler during the tutorial missions but couldnt inject the skillbook or fly the ship, in your case you bought it, but yea, as so many people said, theres a reason for this restriction.

Yes, this is fair enough. it's just poorly handled by CCP IMO. I wonder how any other people it has annoyed? As a company that is using this trial to entice potential customers to buy the game/gametime, I would of expected a more intelligently designed process/solution.

@ J'Poll/The Crazy Dutch Guy. You seem a little bit too much like a fanboy to me. Quoting 'Malcanis' Law', whilst wilfully ignoring, or being oblivious to the fact that I didn't ask for the restriction to be removed, I just questioned why they had done such a thing. Once explained it makes perfect sense, but that doesn't resolve the fact that it seems somewhat poorly implemented. A little pop-up message for trial accounts that informs them of the fact that they can't use an item/ship, or requires an unusable (to trial accounts) item/skill to use, in the same vein as the pop-up message when you go to buy something that is considerably above the average price, seems to me the easiest solution.

I also still find the refusal to let trial accounts post in the Tech Support forum extremely stupid.

EVE is a heck of a frustrating game for newbie players. No denying that. A lot of things are poorly explained and there is not much in-game options for help.

The ship thing I will give you some thoughts on in case they haven't been mentioned.

You can't fly it, but flying it is only one part of the game. You can buy them...and sell them. This opens an opportunity for a new player to get their hands dirty in the trading side of the game. EVE is, contrary to what you will hear, a market simulator at heart.

You can start with that 5k ISK you begin with and have a billion in a month without ever leaving the station. You don't realize it, but it is actually a good thing that you can buy things you can't use low and sell them high. Not just ships either. Pretty much everything.

Mr Epeen

WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN

While I still hope you subscribe, I'm just going to nip this one in the bud: Please don't make a thread complaining about difficulties combat-fitting your Iteron. Then again, it'd have a heck of an honor tank...

Not even 2 weeks and it already has full-blown forum whining syndrome. We've found a long-term customer and a bittervet in the making!