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Antisocial Malkavians 767
Antisocial Malkavian Antisocial Malkavians Likes received: 767	#1 - 2014-04-06 05:40:17 UTC 17 Was in a mission, the salvage ninja warps in, is flying around doing his thing, I lose "aggro" on the rats and suddenly he's in a capsule. karma And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Of Tears and ISK 37
Enraku Reynolt Of Tears and ISK Likes received: 37	#2 - 2014-04-06 06:39:15 UTC 8 Antisocial Malkavian wrote: Was in a mission, the salvage ninja warps in, is flying around doing his thing, I lose "aggro" on the rats and suddenly he's in a capsule. karma did you make sure to loot and salvage his wreck?

Ripperoni in Pepperoni 184
Tanuki Kittybeta Ripperoni in Pepperoni Likes received: 184	#3 - 2014-04-06 07:01:51 UTC 2 Bye bye ninja salvaging you were fun while it lasted

Herzog Wolfhammer

Sigma Special Tactics Group

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#4 - 2014-04-06 08:55:01 UTC

Tanuki Kittybeta wrote:

Bye bye ninja salvaging you were fun while it lasted

Ninja salvaging was on the way out the moment it because possible to abandon all wrecks.

You see, most of the nina-salvaging was about aggro fu, not actually about taking someone' stuff. They acted like it was, part of the "blame the victim" while acting all coy and innocent about it.

When players were able to blue the wrecks, you'd think that crowd would flourish, if that was what they really wanted. Turned out that community lied the entire time. Go figure.

It was getting out of hand though, and once again a mechanic gamed to "get tears" (the alliance around it was called TEARS and the too got off on sharing hate mails, rage, etc) was wrecked but at least it was done in a manner that really put an end to it instead of someone getting banned and giving them something to complain about.

Then came miner-bumping but that's just a 100 percent coincidence of course.

Before anybody gets mad and says "oh someone took your loot!", nobody ever got my loot. Once in a mission room someone came in. It was a drone mission. They left disappointed. But as I got to using T2 modules more I started to loot less and now when I want to run missions (when slamming my willie in the door is not exciting enough I guess) I join the Free Wrecks channel or bring a salvaing noob along - for them it's a fortune but for bitter vets it's a time sink.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Hesod Adee

Perkone

Caldari State

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#5 - 2014-04-06 09:40:29 UTC

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for them it's a fortune but for bitter vets it's a time sink.

True. But I remember when salvaging my missions in a destroyer (4 tractors, 4 salvagers) was more fun than the shooting part of the mission.
Then I took a break for a while, came back to Eve and didn't touch missions. I've used the MTU in wormholes, so I know that the loot/salvage part of missions won't be fun any more. Not with that sucking all the fun out of it.

Kaarous Aldurald

Black Hydra Consortium.

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#6 - 2014-04-06 09:50:16 UTC

Herzog, you need some tape for that tinfoil?

The reason ninja salvaging was a thing for so long is because in the past, more people blitzed missions than they do today. Frequently one would see entire systems filled with wrecks, because it was not time efficient to loot and salvage. It still isn't, but for one thing...

The MTU, which basically killed the profession. And I say "profession", but it was a mini profession anyway, one not really supported with skills like researcher and such.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Mag's

Azn Empire

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#7 - 2014-04-06 09:56:17 UTC

Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

So much this.

Good god, that was some serious tinfoil posting there Herzog.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

March rabbit

Aliastra

Gallente Federation

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#8 - 2014-04-06 10:38:29 UTC

Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

you forgot to mention few more things:
- there was not option to make wrecks blue if you don't need it, make bookmarks and drop them in can named 'free lvl4 loot' next to station (as i did many times)

or

- there was not possible to just convo person and ask his permission to loot his wrecks.... (as people asked in local many times)

So yes, ninja salvaging was never about baiting mission runner Roll

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Caldari Provisions Caldari State 12
cpt Mark Caldari Provisions Caldari State Likes received: 12	#9 - 2014-04-06 10:53:28 UTC Antisocial Malkavian wrote: Was in a mission, the salvage ninja warps in, is flying around doing his thing, I lose "aggro" on the rats and suddenly he's in a capsule. karma Why bother? It's worthless now anyway

Silent Vale LinkNet 7,384
Ramona McCandless Silent Vale LinkNet Likes received: 7,384	#10 - 2014-04-06 10:58:49 UTC 6 He wasnt a ninja if he died He was a fool "Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway "A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Solecist Project

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#11 - 2014-04-06 11:03:18 UTC

Ninja salvaging in one of *the* entry level professions for the creative people.

New players are able to realize "Hey wtf! I can warp to a missions and STEAL HIS STUFF!".

And then do it.

And now ... instead of "Suddenly Ninjas" we have "Pro Synergy".

What have we done ...

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Solecist Project

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#12 - 2014-04-06 11:04:19 UTC

Ramona McCandless wrote:

He wasnt a ninja if he died

He was a fool

As we don't know his age, this is an unfitting assumption.
He could have been a new player too.

Ramona McCandless

Silent Vale

LinkNet

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#13 - 2014-04-06 11:07:41 UTC

Solecist Project wrote:

Ramona McCandless wrote:

He wasnt a ninja if he died

He was a fool

As we don't know his age, this is an unfitting assumption.
He could have been a new player too.

I seem to recall last time we were out doing it, I got myself killed foolishly

1 month to many years, get killed when not under threat = not ninja, is fool

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Perkone Caldari State 62
Kalim Dabo Perkone Caldari State Likes received: 62	#14 - 2014-04-06 11:27:19 UTC 2 Next time you should shoot him, OP. Rule for life - always shoot the ninja. everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com

The Scope Gallente Federation 427
RAIN Arthie The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 427	#15 - 2014-04-06 11:28:55 UTC 1 Arrrg, swab the poop deck! Because you got seamen on me booty!

Xavier Holtzman

Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting

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#16 - 2014-04-06 14:04:23 UTC

Antisocial Malkavian wrote:

Was in a mission, the salvage ninja warps in, is flying around doing his thing, I lose "aggro" on the rats and suddenly he's in a capsule.

karma

Cool story, bro.

I do not like the men on this spaceship. They are uncouth and fail to appreciate my better qualities. I have something of value to contribute to this mission if only they would realize it. - Bill Frug

Kaarous Aldurald

Black Hydra Consortium.

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#17 - 2014-04-06 14:09:10 UTC

March rabbit wrote:

So yes, ninja salvaging was never about baiting mission runner Roll

I didn't say that.

What I said was, that it existed in the first place because it was literally free money, laying around everywhere, that could be obtained with 3 day old skills and the free destroyer from the tutorial.

I did quite a bit of salvaging for a while, and of late it just hasn't been there.

The MTU is the cause.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Antisocial Malkavian

Antisocial Malkavians

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#18 - 2014-04-06 16:14:53 UTC

Enraku Reynolt wrote:

Antisocial Malkavian wrote:

Was in a mission, the salvage ninja warps in, is flying around doing his thing, I lose "aggro" on the rats and suddenly he's in a capsule.

karma

did you make sure to loot and salvage his wreck?

We did salvage him, but his loot would have flagged us

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Antisocial Malkavian

Antisocial Malkavians

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#19 - 2014-04-06 16:18:14 UTC

March rabbit wrote:

Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

Unless you had friends in the system in T3 ships who would then swoop in and murder the mission runner for agressing the ninja salvager, seen THAT a few time.

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Epic Ganking Time CODE. 3,461
Gogela Epic Ganking Time CODE. Likes received: 3,461	#20 - 2014-04-06 18:12:11 UTC Ninja salvaging/looting is a great sport. I encourage everyone to try it. Signatures should be used responsibly...