Wormholes

Not against this idea.

My missiles! D:

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Clearly you just quoted me wrong to make fun of me. I didn't edit my post, I swear.



Seems fair to me to assume if you change gun range you change drone control range and missile flight time to match. v0v

This is the problem with the minutes, it's missing so much background info on what's being talked about that if you're not read in it all sounds crazy. So thanks James for the background info on it.

As I've said before on the C4 extra static issue, it doesn't mean that more people will be heading upwards to shoot at you. We're perfectly capable of tracking which sig is the WH up and we're perfectly capable of ignoring it.

So do some of you actually choose to not fight in particular WH's as it means you can't run the armour t3 setup? For realsies? not just smack talk?

Lol, whining about Pulsars?

Please, a game isn't fun without aspects that are possibly imba. Fun in eve is based around other people not having fun in most cases. Having mechanics that are not perfectly balanced for everybody is completely sane and from a design perspective it makes sense to introduce even more.

Especially for wormhole systems, if you want to kill a chimera in a pulsar, prepare accordingly, don't just whine your random pvp fleet can't kill it. A triage chimera can easily be killed in a pulsar if you actually bring dreads. Don't whine because you're not willing to collapse yourself out of your own hole, or scan a way in from elsewhere to bring in caps.

You cannot expect to be able to kill everything no matter what in any scenario. I think people who whine about game mechanics need to learn to adapt rather than complain to CCP about balancing mechanics so that the game becomes completely a game of numbers (as subcap pvp has become more and more with the recent ~balance~ passes that have happened).

In my opinion a game based around having the fun at expense of others should be inherently imbalanced. The stupid people will chose to fly bad ships and use bad mechanics, and the smart ones will avoid it. I believe homogenization is a very bad thing, and deprives a game of significant uniqueness.

I think it's hilarious when people clamour for things to be fixed when they could just adapt instead (see goons flying 2000 sig radius drakes against tracking titans, etc...).

******* lol people. I honestly wish the devs were less responsive to specific player directions. In my opinion the game should be guided by a grand vision from CCP that isn't guided by player complaints or business/profit concerns. Unfortunately I can't see that happening. The CSM is really simply a joke and I think it should not exist, what is needed instead is a bit more sense in the CCP Eve department as a whole. I think the only thing the CSM offers CCP is guidance on not straying from the type of game eve is fundamentaly, but I also think that CSM is full of people who pretend they know what's best for the game when they simply do not, will not, and can not possibly know this.

tl;dr: If you're going to be a WH CSM, I implore you to work against CCP involving any sort of balance changes towards WH effects. That doesn't exclude changes, just changes that work towards trying to make all of the wormholes equally viable for any party in them. There should be wormholes that favor many types of behavior, offensive, defensive, subversive, controlling, covert, and any other type. I also think that new types of wormhole effects and mechanics should be introduced. I feel that wormholes should be an environment that forces constant adaptation and not somewhere that is a stagnant environment...

It seems there are some diehards from the old days yes.

No, it is not.
So chess isn´t fun? Unless you call the tiny benefit from playing one colour imba.

While I also think pulsars are the best effects and it´s so funny to watch armor-t3 gangs sit at the door and refuse to come in and play, "just bring dreads" is not a solution. Might be in nullsec but not here where we have massrestrictions and HOLES WHICH DON`T FIT DREADS. It might be balanced now, but if you add another 30% (?) from fleetboosts to that tank and maybe even a crystalset it´s not anymore.

And the players at least have some control and feedback over the CSM. Without it CCP only listens to the same dubious nullblockleaders they have been listening to for years. And that turned out so well. Or listen to noone only to your designteam, that was also really awesome, wasn´t it. And worked out so well for so many other developers...

Besides his tldr, that was rather good.

I seriously can't believe we are having this discussion.
You people are actually basing the 'OP level' of a certain system type on the fact that if someone officer fits a Chimera it becomes hard to kill? Come on man.
Hell if I put 40bil into ANY ship, it should be a damn sight better than a T2 fit.

As for being 'fair' and 'balanced'? Since when is EVE meant for be fair and balanced?
This is bullsh*t that needs to be called out way more often.
When was the last time you had a balanced fight? Both side may think it's balanced but in reality there's no such thing. The trick is, and always has been, to make the other guy think they have the upper hand.
It would be UNbalanced if Pulsar effects only applied to the home team. Given they obviously apply to everyone in system, just use your head and also use them to your advantage.
People keep talking about 'home field pulsar advantage', what does that even mean? That we have shield ships and you don't?
That isn't really our fault now is it?
The only advantage we have is the same advantage you and everyone else has; capital numbers, and the type of system has no affect on that.

Also, why do we need fleet boosts to apply to capital reps? Is this really something that needs to happen?
If so it would really help for someone to point out why.

So much butthurt in this thread!

Don't you guys realise that CCP gunna do what they wonna do, we have no say in this..

It's only until afterwards that they realise they made a mistake, when the 40 page threadnaught of unsub threats pops up.



Brb, unsubscribing my accounts.

If links effect capital reps then Crystals should effect them as well... in addition all the implants that say "does not effect capital modules" should have that removed. Everything should blanket effect everything amirite?

Also.. you cannot justify a balance pass based on extream cases (1 million EHP T3s... 'unkillable' Chimeras)