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Ships with smart-bomb roles?
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BEPOHNKA
Ner Vod Fleet Systems
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2014-04-05 08:03:49 UTC
Why don't we have ships with smart bomb roles hehe? Shocked
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#2 - 2014-04-05 08:05:33 UTC
Because every lowsec and nullsec gate will have one sitting on them.

All day.

For no real reason.


No.

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BEPOHNKA
Ner Vod Fleet Systems
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2014-04-05 08:08:03 UTC
Well they already have limited of how close they can be set off by the gates. They already smart bomb around them now so not much would change. Easy set limits again how close they can be use around stations and gates :).
Solecist Project
#4 - 2014-04-05 08:12:29 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Because every lowsec and nullsec gate will have one sitting on them.

All day.

For no real reason.


No.
I have to question your intelligence.

There is no need for a dedicated smartbombing ship for this to happen. If there was a big enough supply of people willing to do this, it would happen already. We don't see all gates full of tornados with remote sebo support either.

Anyhow... what we would see indeed is an increase in discos in highsec, because smartbombs right now aren't really cost effective for what they provide. A cheap hull to sport eight large ones would be great. I can see why that's not going to happen, though...

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-04-05 08:25:13 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Because every lowsec and nullsec gate will have one sitting on them.

All day.

For no real reason.


No.

massive exaggeration, an (eg.) effective 10-sb ship wouldn't accomplish much more in this regard than an 8-sb ship
Solecist Project
#6 - 2014-04-05 10:50:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Benny Ohu wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Because every lowsec and nullsec gate will have one sitting on them.

All day.

For no real reason.


No.

massive exaggeration, an (eg.) effective 10-sb ship wouldn't accomplish much more in this regard than an 8-sb ship

I can see a rig that allows to fit one additional smartbomb.
That way, they'd not have to introduce ships with ten highslots.

But I think what's more needed than more smartbombs is a bonus to range.


The most limiting factor anyway is ISK.
It needs a battleship to utilize them properly, which makes noobs use typhoons, (which I recall as "cheap")
instead of proper ones like an hyperion or that amarrian one with 1500m+ axis.


One could say that ISK indeed is a balancing factor when it comes to smartbombs ... at least in highsec.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-04-05 11:07:47 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Because every lowsec and nullsec gate will have one sitting on them.

All day.

For no real reason.


No.

massive exaggeration, an (eg.) effective 10-sb ship wouldn't accomplish much more in this regard than an 8-sb ship

I can see a rig that allows to fit one additional smartbomb.
That way, they'd not have to introduce ships with ten highslots.

i meant something standard like +5% SB damage/level, and only as an example towards 'quoted is being a git'
baltec1
Bat Country
The Initiative.
#8 - 2014-04-05 11:09:45 UTC
Such a ship would be far too narrow and would defeat itself because everyone would keep their distance.
Gary Bell
Therapy.
The Initiative.
#9 - 2014-04-05 11:36:16 UTC
Not to mention I would abuse the hell outta it in null to carebear my face off :)
Solecist Project
#10 - 2014-04-05 11:38:13 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Such a ship would be far too narrow and would defeat itself because everyone would keep their distance.
That's not really an issue if you simply warp on top of them,
as we're not talking about battleship warptimes here.
Or good old gridfu.

Another battleship is definitely the least thing we'd need for this.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#11 - 2014-04-05 11:39:41 UTC
Hey, when we get to build gates can we upgrade them to include automatic smartbombing of non-alliance members?

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
WASPY69
Xerum.
#12 - 2014-04-05 13:37:41 UTC
This just in! New Minmatar battleship to be added. Official name due to popular demand will be Typhoon Disco Edition. Stats are as follows:

    Minmatar Battleship
  • 10% bonus to armor hitpoints per level.
  • 5% bonus to optimal range and damage of smartbombs per level.

Available soon™ at your nearest hub!

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BEPOHNKA
Ner Vod Fleet Systems
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2014-04-05 14:54:11 UTC
WASPY69 wrote:
This just in! New Minmatar battleship to be added. Official name due to popular demand will be Typhoon Disco Edition. Stats are as follows:

    Minmatar Battleship
  • 10% bonus to armor hitpoints per level.
  • 5% bonus to optimal range and damage of smartbombs per level.

Available soon™ at your nearest hub!




this would cover what i mean :))..
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#14 - 2014-04-05 14:57:02 UTC
Zappity wrote:
Hey, when we get to build gates can we upgrade them to include automatic smartbombing of non-alliance members?


Screw that, I want an Iris on my gate

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#15 - 2014-04-05 20:37:02 UTC
WASPY69 wrote:
This just in! New Minmatar battleship to be added. Official name due to popular demand will be Typhoon Disco Edition. Stats are as follows:

    Minmatar Battleship
  • 10% bonus to armor hitpoints per level.
  • 5% bonus to optimal range and damage of smartbombs per level.

Available soon™ at your nearest hub!


I want Dominix Disco Edition!

Nothing better than Disco failwhale!

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Nick Starkey
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2014-04-05 22:39:55 UTC
I would prefer smaller smartbombs to be a reasonable module for other ships instead, being somewhat viable even with 1 or 2 of them. It would be an interesting counter to drones.

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Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-04-05 22:53:55 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Because every lowsec and nullsec gate will have one sitting on them.

All day.

For no real reason.


No.

massive exaggeration, an (eg.) effective 10-sb ship wouldn't accomplish much more in this regard than an 8-sb ship

I can see a rig that allows to fit one additional smartbomb.
That way, they'd not have to introduce ships with ten highslots.

But I think what's more needed than more smartbombs is range.


Range bonused smart bombs on a ship with an MJD, what could possibly go wrong
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-04-06 00:21:24 UTC
OP, it would break wormhole PvE.

In red giants, smartbombs do +100% dmg and range - and smart people ALREADY warp in 10-12 tanked battleships and a carrier and clear sleeper sites in a minute of smartbombing hell.

Now you add a dedicated smarbombing platform, and those same sites can be cleared by 4-6 ships instead of 10-12, thus messing up T3 production chains completely, and significantly increasing isk supply from sleeper loot, thus driving up inflation.

A positive would mean that C6 red giants would be fought over, but...

TL:DR - would break wormholes.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#19 - 2014-04-06 00:47:49 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Because every lowsec and nullsec gate will have one sitting on them.

All day.

For no real reason.


No.
I have to question your intelligence.

There is no need for a dedicated smartbombing ship for this to happen. If there was a big enough supply of people willing to do this, it would happen already. We don't see all gates full of tornados with remote sebo support either.

Anyhow... what we would see indeed is an increase in discos in highsec, because smartbombs right now aren't really cost effective for what they provide. A cheap hull to sport eight large ones would be great. I can see why that's not going to happen, though...


My agility fit Blockade Runner pilot is grateful for the stuff you just said. He hates running into smarties.

Mr Epeen Cool