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Skins : A One Trick Pony
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Budrick3
Moira.
#1 - 2014-04-05 13:01:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Budrick3
I will preface the start of this by stating that companies should always look for additional revenue resources to further themselves. But in the next breath, I believe CCP is going about it all the wrong way.

There might be excitement currently for the new ship skins, but I believe it will be shortly lived. With plex prices already fairly high, the proposed aurum market looks less and less appealing for new and old players (never was terribly exciting to begin with).

Rather than charging players, I believe CCP should have added these skins via the LP store generating more interest to play the game and growing new comers. The argument for Eve is that it has a tendency to get stale after a while, and though these new features are awesome, they quickly lose momentum after learning there is a cost involved.

It will be interesting to see a comparison of income from the introduction of this new skin model and its future success one year from now. Similar to buying clothing for your character, it seems to be a one trick pony and a loss of resources, time, and revenue for the company as time progresses.
Salvos Rhoska
#2 - 2014-04-05 13:03:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Terrible as it sounds, Im sure another single Monocle at insane real money price, would have earned them bucketloads more than the entire paintjob project.

People like to buy exclusive stuff, both for themselves as treats, and for their friends for birthdays etc.

And complaints would have been minimal. I mean its no skin off anyone elses nose if someguy has the money to sport a trendy monocle.

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Hevymetal
POT Corp
#3 - 2014-04-05 13:11:30 UTC
ANYTHING CCP can do to increase cashflow is fair game to them.

It is working at the moment, people are buying, so don't expect change.
WASPY69
Xerum.
#4 - 2014-04-05 13:18:13 UTC
Somebody mentioned monocles?

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#5 - 2014-04-05 14:44:11 UTC
If this game gets stale for you, either you arent doing it right or its not the game for you, sorry old bean.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union
#6 - 2014-04-05 14:57:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Rovinia
There is a ++ Dev Blog ++ about it. The skins in the "Nex Store" are only for starters. If the Ship painting pilot programm is a success, other skins which you only can get through ingame-actions will follow.
Budrick3
Moira.
#7 - 2014-04-05 15:19:24 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
If this game gets stale for you, either you arent doing it right or its not the game for you, sorry old bean.


Thanks for contributing something productive to the conversation. I didn't know we were comparing epeen sizes here. You are a 2013 character which tremendous experience, I’m a lowly 2008 character losing my vision. Hence I have cataracts in my eyes.
Rainbow Dash
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-04-05 15:31:33 UTC
I'm interested in how you think ship skins will convince new players to start playing eve.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#9 - 2014-04-05 15:31:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Budrick3 wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
If this game gets stale for you, either you arent doing it right or its not the game for you, sorry old bean.


Thanks for contributing something productive to the conversation. I didn't know we were comparing epeen sizes here. You are a 2013 character which tremendous experience, I’m a lowly 2008 character losing my vision. Hence I have cataracts in my eyes.




You certainly rp a blind old man tired of life very well

Yes Im clearly not a cyno alt Roll

But please use your whole 6 years of experience to explain how clothes for my ship provide more content than trying something you havent done yet.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Budrick3
Moira.
#10 - 2014-04-05 15:40:37 UTC
Rainbow Dash wrote:
I'm interested in how you think ship skins will convince new players to start playing eve.


I believe there is added excitment for the opportunity to customize your ship to your personal tastes. The game is starting to get a free to play characteristic with time passing and the kicker of a subscription.

My arguement is that it is a potential turn off to new and old players alike and could lose the demographic.

Excitement is lost when the new content has a price associated to it.
Rainbow Dash
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-04-05 15:45:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Rainbow Dash
Budrick3 wrote:
Rainbow Dash wrote:
I'm interested in how you think ship skins will convince new players to start playing eve.


I believe there is added excitment for the opportunity to customize your ship to your personal tastes. The game is starting to get a free to play characteristic with time passing and the kicker of a subscription.

My arguement is that it is a potential turn off to new and old players alike and could lose the demographic.

Excitement is lost when the new content has a price associated to it.


You're not eliminating the price though, just changing it. Pretty much the only thing shifting from AUR to LP does is make it so CCP doesn't make money.
Budrick3
Moira.
#12 - 2014-04-05 15:49:40 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Budrick3 wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
If this game gets stale for you, either you arent doing it right or its not the game for you, sorry old bean.


Thanks for contributing something productive to the conversation. I didn't know we were comparing epeen sizes here. You are a 2013 character which tremendous experience, I’m a lowly 2008 character losing my vision. Hence I have cataracts in my eyes.




You certainly rp a blind old man tired of life very well

Yes Im clearly not a cyno alt Roll

But please use your whole 6 years of experience to explain how clothes for my ship provide more content than trying something you havent done yet.


Nice catch on your edit there. I was gonna make fun of you for your lack of adding skills for coming up with 4 years.

Clothes, skins, whatever you want to call it is additional content to the game. Whether you feel this is of value is up to personal opinion. I fail to see your point young bean.
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-04-05 15:57:50 UTC
I REALLY want CCP to introduce ship customization, I just hope they dont go about it the wrong way.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#14 - 2014-04-05 15:59:23 UTC
Budrick3 wrote:


Nice catch on your edit there. I was gonna make fun of you for your lack of adding skills for coming up with 4 years.

Clothes, skins, whatever you want to call it is additional content to the game. Whether you feel this is of value is up to personal opinion. I fail to see your point young bean.


lol yeah Im not very good at maths Ill admit that

Fair enough, I will concede your point, though what I was sort of getting at is that I cant imagine ever running out of things to do in this game

But yeah, soz and all

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#15 - 2014-04-05 16:07:59 UTC
One good thing about playing in low settings, i don't have to worry about paint jobs cause i can't see em anyway...that beeing said , the rise in plex prices has me iritated aswell

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !
RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-04-05 16:17:33 UTC
Look I painted a ship.... one person claps in a crowded room.
Fujiko MaXjolt
ACME HARDWARE
#17 - 2014-04-05 16:52:04 UTC
WASPY69 wrote:
Somebody mentioned monocles?


DUDE ! Your FACE !!! ShockedShockedShocked
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#18 - 2014-04-05 16:54:17 UTC
Budrick3 wrote:
I will preface the start of this by stating that companies should always look for additional revenue resources to further themselves. But in the next breath, I believe CCP is going about it all the wrong way.

There might be excitement currently for the new ship skins, but I believe it will be shortly lived. With plex prices already fairly high, the proposed aurum market looks less and less appealing for new and old players (never was terribly exciting to begin with).

Rather than charging players, I believe CCP should have added these skins via the LP store generating more interest to play the game and growing new comers. The argument for Eve is that it has a tendency to get stale after a while, and though these new features are awesome, they quickly lose momentum after learning there is a cost involved.

It will be interesting to see a comparison of income from the introduction of this new skin model and its future success one year from now. Similar to buying clothing for your character, it seems to be a one trick pony and a loss of resources, time, and revenue for the company as time progresses.


What part of it being a pilot program didn't you get, they verry clearly said that, given enough interest they would be introducing an isk/lo method of attaining ship skins.

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#19 - 2014-04-05 17:05:34 UTC
So Op obviously has 50 Police Comets right? To show CCP that they only support LP skins & not Aur skins?
Budrick3
Moira.
#20 - 2014-04-05 17:27:10 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
So Op obviously has 50 Police Comets right? To show CCP that they only support LP skins & not Aur skins?


challenge accepted.
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