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Haka Kakinen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-04-04 20:14:03 UTC
we have any weapon damage increase or tracking improvement implants

for example : Zainou 'Deadeye' Small Hybrid Turret SH-603 (3% bonus to small hybrid turret damage.)

but none for drones !!!!

CCP please make drone implants !!!!

drone damage , drone tracking , drone falloff
Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#2 - 2014-04-04 20:26:12 UTC
I like it but drones is already one of the best weapon systems in game and they might be overpowered if they give them more bonuses.

Feel the wrath of the GECKO!
Haka Kakinen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-04-04 22:23:08 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
I like it but drones is already one of the best weapon systems in game and they might be overpowered if they give them more bonuses.


who cares , implants should be for all weaponry "including" drones
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2014-04-04 23:50:08 UTC
Haka Kakinen wrote:
who cares, implants should be for all weaponry "including" drones

That's a bold move there, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-04-05 03:36:29 UTC
Haka Kakinen wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
I like it but drones is already one of the best weapon systems in game and they might be overpowered if they give them more bonuses.


who cares , implants should be for all weaponry "including" drones



people who want some game balance do.....


Drones are still in a period of tweaking. Domi was adjusted, omnilink scripted and drone assist looked at.

CCP in the case of the first 2 items is not going to reverse those changes with drone implants. Your scripting for range at the cost of tracking (or vice versa) was by design. Chance of implant to get you both back is slim to none here.




Haka Kakinen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-04-05 11:04:29 UTC
Zan Shiro wrote:
Haka Kakinen wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
I like it but drones is already one of the best weapon systems in game and they might be overpowered if they give them more bonuses.


who cares , implants should be for all weaponry "including" drones



people who want some game balance do.....


Drones are still in a period of tweaking. Domi was adjusted, omnilink scripted and drone assist looked at.

CCP in the case of the first 2 items is not going to reverse those changes with drone implants. Your scripting for range at the cost of tracking (or vice versa) was by design. Chance of implant to get you both back is slim to none here.







dude , tracking computers are for guns too !! and of course we have implants for more gun tracking , missile velocity , etc.

So why not drone implants ?

admiral root
Red Galaxy
#7 - 2014-04-05 11:12:24 UTC
I give it 3/10.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Cloak n'all
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-04-05 19:19:37 UTC
Zan Shiro wrote:
Haka Kakinen wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
I like it but drones is already one of the best weapon systems in game and they might be overpowered if they give them more bonuses.


who cares , implants should be for all weaponry "including" drones



people who want some game balance do.....


Drones are still in a period of tweaking. Domi was adjusted, omnilink scripted and drone assist looked at.

CCP in the case of the first 2 items is not going to reverse those changes with drone implants. Your scripting for range at the cost of tracking (or vice versa) was by design. Chance of implant to get you both back is slim to none here.





They could make Drone implants with a "give and take" mechanic similar to the Rigs for ships to accommodate this. However, everything i game should not, IMHO, have implants for it.
Giullare
The Candyman is Back
#9 - 2014-04-05 20:44:57 UTC
2k dps vindicator can benefit from gun's implants, who cares Roll
Haka Kakinen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-04-07 10:59:35 UTC
bump
Alundil
Rolled Out
#11 - 2014-04-07 12:07:02 UTC
Giullare wrote:
2k dps vindicator can benefit from gun's implants, who cares Roll

Agreed it would make some niche fits pretty craycray. But that said, 2k dps vindicators are going to be very squishy. I have one that your comment applied to. Good luck keeping it up in a fight because a shield fit vindi is squishy.

I'm right behind you
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#12 - 2014-04-07 12:29:16 UTC
I see no reason not to have drone implants. Is +5% sentry drone and +5% all drone damage really going to make that big of a difference in the grand scheme? I don't think so. So the Ishtar will do 770dps at 50km instead of 700. Big deal, it's slightly more OP. The Oracle and Naga can pull that off too in similarly mobile platforms. The real problem is the Ishtar gettng BS class weapons while all the other HACs get cruiser class. Drop it to 50 bandwidth and that problem goes away real fast. No one complains about domi's and they do just as much damage at the same range with the same tracking with the same drones.

The Ishtar being broken is not a valid reason to oppose this idea imho. The problem is a specific ship, not drones in general.

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Haka Kakinen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-04-08 12:24:22 UTC
bump
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-04-08 12:30:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Corraidhin Farsaidh
King Rothgar wrote:


The Ishtar being broken is not a valid reason to oppose this idea imho. The problem is a specific ship, not drones in general.


ishtar isn't broken...it takes an extensive set of skills (both character and player) to pilot effectively and therefore the rewards should reflect this. As in other threads on ishtar being OP I would say that any ship where you can directly target and destroy its dps capability has a distinct weakness. Ishtar seems balanced to me.

OP: I would also like to see drone implants, drones are a weapon system just as any other, so implants would be justifiable
Haka Kakinen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-04-09 18:17:29 UTC
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
King Rothgar wrote:


The Ishtar being broken is not a valid reason to oppose this idea imho. The problem is a specific ship, not drones in general.


ishtar isn't broken...it takes an extensive set of skills (both character and player) to pilot effectively and therefore the rewards should reflect this. As in other threads on ishtar being OP I would say that any ship where you can directly target and destroy its dps capability has a distinct weakness. Ishtar seems balanced to me.

OP: I would also like to see drone implants, drones are a weapon system just as any other, so implants would be justifiable


what he said ^^
Haka Kakinen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-04-10 17:47:40 UTC
bump
Nolen Cadmar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-04-10 19:25:58 UTC
I disprove. Partly becuase "Who cares" is not a legitimate rebuttal.

The main reason I think there should not be implants for drones is because they don't consume ammo. Each weapon system has its pro's and con's. Why should drones be exempt?

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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-04-10 19:46:51 UTC
Nolen Cadmar wrote:
I disprove. Partly becuase "Who cares" is not a legitimate rebuttal.

The main reason I think there should not be implants for drones is because they don't consume ammo. Each weapon system has its pro's and con's. Why should drones be exempt?


You can blow drones up, whereas you can't directly target guns/launchers. Pretty big con to balance the pro I think.
Nolen Cadmar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-04-10 19:49:11 UTC
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
Nolen Cadmar wrote:
I disprove. Partly becuase "Who cares" is not a legitimate rebuttal.

The main reason I think there should not be implants for drones is because they don't consume ammo. Each weapon system has its pro's and con's. Why should drones be exempt?


You can blow drones up, whereas you can't directly target guns/launchers. Pretty big con to balance the pro I think.


I didn't say there were no others. I just meant why should one of them be removed? If we remove a con from drones, maybe we should remove a con from missiles? Make missile hit for the same damage regardless of speed.

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Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#20 - 2014-04-10 20:20:11 UTC
Rowells wrote:
Haka Kakinen wrote:
who cares, implants should be for all weaponry "including" drones

That's a bold move there, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.


Now people at work are looking at me weird.
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