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CCP pulls numbers out of ass and lies on forums!

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Khamelea
Bricks in the Sky
#41 - 2011-11-30 23:26:32 UTC
"at the time of counting"

It's interesting how if you actually read the post it gives you the answers your looking for.
Jita Alt666
#42 - 2011-11-30 23:33:21 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
It was pointed out below that perhaps CCP meant 6% of the 960 unique posters were negative about the font... do the math that's 57 unique posters.


In response to that... I found 57 folks in the first 10 pages of the thread entitled FONT that were negative.

and here are their names.

Quote:

Aldan Romar
Archa4 Badasaz
Atridies
BigDaddyMcFatSacks
Blnukem192
Blood Fart
BondGamer
bonoMonsterK
Bubanni
Butter Dog
Buzzmong
Dewgong
Dinta Zembo
E Wan
Girgem
Hammez Coopez
Hazzard
Hra Neuvosto
Ione Dee
Jacob cirth
Jita Alt666
Jodis Talvanen
Julius Rigel
Leo Monaco
Lexa Hellfury
Little Delicoius
Logical Chaos
Lola Isabel
Lumadane
Mal DarkRunner
Midnight Hope
Mila Iijima
Miss President
mkint
Morganta
Nalia White
Octarius Eskravu
Ohanka
Phoebus Raszamar
Psychophantic
Rhaegor
Ris Dnalor
Rusty PwnStar
Ryas Nia
Selinate
Shkolnica
Shotgun' Sara Cyanyde
Spc One
Tetragammatron Prime
The Marketer
ucntkilme
Vachir Khan
Valeroth Kyarmentari
Variasse Valence
Vin Ott
Voi Lutois
Zifrian


Oi dumbass I LIKE THE NEW FONT. it is not perfect. IT IS BETTER THAN THE OLD FONT. I have said that 8 times in 8 different threads.

Either you: need to learn to read. Perhaps your ability to distinguish different letters has been screwed up by years of reading the old inferior font.

Or you are a hypocrite who is making claims that do not stack up: How dare you list me in your stupid campaign to undo a change I personally have been backing for 5 years.

Respect for Op gone.

Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2011-11-30 23:35:22 UTC
heh.

well, u can say my point is not valid all you want.

You can also say the moon is made of cheese.

Neither statement would be true.

CCP lied.

Yea I think the new font is horrible.

But for them to lie about the number of folks that don't like it.... or even to spin the numbers to make it sound like majority rules.... That's just not acceptable.

They took something broken, and replaced it with something that is broken in another way.

Why not take the time and do it right? Functional doesn't have to be ugly.

It's CCP's own fault, they've had an 8 year tradition of making things the exact opposite of ugly. And now this? really?

bah.

I know some love it, and I know some hate it. Or perhaps it's because they think so little of us that they don't even create a clever lie... that's just insulting, and that's what the rant is truly about. I hate deceptive and devious bullshit. It's just not necessary. It's wrong.

but whatever. I'm glad folks can read the font. I am. I'm glad CCP is doing the whole FiS thing again. but whether it be purposeful or just negligence, they shouldn't spout facts that simply aren't true to support what they've done.

anyway, I'll let everyone else continue this debate, as because as many folks have pointed out, I've gone on long enough about it.

o/

Ris Dnalor

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

  • Qolde
Jita Alt666
#44 - 2011-11-30 23:37:16 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
heh.

well, u can say my point is not valid all you want.

You can also say the moon is made of cheese.

Neither statement would be true.

CCP lied.

Yea I think the new font is horrible.

But for them to lie about the number of folks that don't like it.... or even to spin the numbers to make it sound like majority rules.... That's just not acceptable.

They took something broken, and replaced it with something that is broken in another way.

Why not take the time and do it right? Functional doesn't have to be ugly.

It's CCP's own fault, they've had an 8 year tradition of making things the exact opposite of ugly. And now this? really?

bah.

I know some love it, and I know some hate it. Or perhaps it's because they think so little of us that they don't even create a clever lie... that's just insulting, and that's what the rant is truly about. I hate deceptive and devious bullshit. It's just not necessary. It's wrong.

but whatever. I'm glad folks can read the font. I am. I'm glad CCP is doing the whole FiS thing again. but whether it be purposeful or just negligence, they shouldn't spout facts that simply aren't true to support what they've done.

anyway, I'll let everyone else continue this debate, as because as many folks have pointed out, I've gone on long enough about it.

o/

Ris Dnalor



shut up liar.
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2011-11-30 23:39:28 UTC
Jita Alt666 wrote:
Ris Dnalor wrote:
It was pointed out below that perhaps CCP meant 6% of the 960 unique posters were negative about the font... do the math that's 57 unique posters.


In response to that... I found 57 folks in the first 10 pages of the thread entitled FONT that were negative.

and here are their names.

Quote:

Aldan Romar
Archa4 Badasaz
Atridies
BigDaddyMcFatSacks
Blnukem192
Blood Fart
BondGamer
bonoMonsterK
Bubanni
Butter Dog
Buzzmong
Dewgong
Dinta Zembo
E Wan
Girgem
Hammez Coopez
Hazzard
Hra Neuvosto
Ione Dee
Jacob cirth
Jita Alt666
Jodis Talvanen
Julius Rigel
Leo Monaco
Lexa Hellfury
Little Delicoius
Logical Chaos
Lola Isabel
Lumadane
Mal DarkRunner
Midnight Hope
Mila Iijima
Miss President
mkint
Morganta
Nalia White
Octarius Eskravu
Ohanka
Phoebus Raszamar
Psychophantic
Rhaegor
Ris Dnalor
Rusty PwnStar
Ryas Nia
Selinate
Shkolnica
Shotgun' Sara Cyanyde
Spc One
Tetragammatron Prime
The Marketer
ucntkilme
Vachir Khan
Valeroth Kyarmentari
Variasse Valence
Vin Ott
Voi Lutois
Zifrian


Oi dumbass I LIKE THE NEW FONT. it is not perfect. IT IS BETTER THAN THE OLD FONT. I have said that 8 times in 8 different threads.

Either you: need to learn to read. Perhaps your ability to distinguish different letters has been screwed up by years of reading the old inferior font.

Or you are a hypocrite who is making claims that do not stack up: How dare you list me in your stupid campaign to undo a change I personally have been backing for 5 years.

Respect for Op gone.



apologies.

I scanned too quickly.

I will remove your name from the list.

This is what I saw on one of your posts.

Quote:
New Font: Cartoony, .....


but after reading the whole post, I see that you were supporting it.
Quote:

Old Font: Crisp Clear fitted game well. 0O S5 1I B8 etc etc too similar to allow free flowing reading of system names or anomoly index etc

New Font: Cartoony, does not scale well. but very readable.

To the people saying: "what was the issue with the old font?" SIGH:


its a big issue


I give up and go home now. but i'll ammend the first post before I do.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

  • Qolde
Trainwreck McGee
Doomheim
#46 - 2011-11-30 23:41:35 UTC
dude its FONTS go outside and take a deep breadth

CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool

Revajin
Doomheim
#47 - 2011-11-30 23:42:25 UTC
OP have you considered pursuing females of your species for sexual intercourse? Because I think after you do that you might not be so butthurt about fonts in a videogame.
Jita Alt666
#48 - 2011-11-30 23:44:42 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:


apologies.

I scanned too quickly.

I will remove your name from the list.

This is what I saw on one of your posts.

Quote:
New Font: Cartoony, .....


but after reading the whole post, I see that you were supporting it.
Quote:

Old Font: Crisp Clear fitted game well. 0O S5 1I B8 etc etc too similar to allow free flowing reading of system names or anomoly index etc

New Font: Cartoony, does not scale well. but very readable.

To the people saying: "what was the issue with the old font?" SIGH:


its a big issue


I give up and go home now. but i'll ammend the first post before I do.


I reserve the right to hold the same rage you do in your op post as you reserve for CCP. I do not know if they lied about the numbers. I know you did.
Midori Tsu
Evolution
Northern Coalition.
#49 - 2011-11-30 23:45:12 UTC
Revajin wrote:
OP have you considered pursuing females of your species for sexual intercourse? Because I think after you do that you might not be so butthurt about fonts in a videogame.


That **** is harder than people says it is, but then again I never really tried due to social anxiety. I've been told countless times that bitches ain't worth the effort.
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2011-11-30 23:45:48 UTC
yea yea, i just don't like to be dismissed or lied to.

but you're right.

it's a font.

If i can't adapt, I'll die as the saying goes.

Just that I don't think I'm going to get used to this one.

And it was salt in the wounds to see figures posted that are certainly not inclusive of what I've been reading. far more than 6 percent of foks have something negative to say about the font. Even folks that enjoy the readibility improvements are often calling it horrendously ugly.

They could've done better. They usually do better.

/emote shrug.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

  • Qolde
flank steak
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#51 - 2011-11-30 23:45:48 UTC
do you feel sad?

do you feel your life is wasted because you just spent an 3 hours doing a cute little investigation

Over. A. Font?
Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#52 - 2011-11-30 23:46:34 UTC
I love the new font.
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2011-11-30 23:47:01 UTC
flank steak wrote:
do you feel sad?

do you feel your life is wasted because you just spent an 3 hours doing a cute little investigation

Over. A. Font?


wait.

do you want to debate 'wasting time' with a bunch of folks that play eve online? really? Lol

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

  • Qolde
Handsome Hussein
#54 - 2011-11-30 23:47:46 UTC
Midori Tsu wrote:
That **** is harder than people says it is, but then again I never really tried due to social anxiety. I've been told countless times that bitches ain't worth the effort.

Bitches aren't, but women are. Big difference.

Leaves only the fresh scent of pine.

Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2011-11-30 23:49:31 UTC
Jita Alt666 wrote:
Ris Dnalor wrote:


apologies.

I scanned too quickly.

I will remove your name from the list.

This is what I saw on one of your posts.

Quote:
New Font: Cartoony, .....


but after reading the whole post, I see that you were supporting it.
Quote:

Old Font: Crisp Clear fitted game well. 0O S5 1I B8 etc etc too similar to allow free flowing reading of system names or anomoly index etc

New Font: Cartoony, does not scale well. but very readable.

To the people saying: "what was the issue with the old font?" SIGH:


its a big issue


I give up and go home now. but i'll ammend the first post before I do.


I reserve the right to hold the same rage you do in your op post as you reserve for CCP. I do not know if they lied about the numbers. I know you did.


I cannot arque your point. You are correct, and I was wrong.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

  • Qolde
Myrdraeus Keaunt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2011-11-30 23:51:13 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
I made 63 posts myself last night in various threads. ( perhaps I was only counted as 1, but that's not what is written )


Congratulations on proving in one quick swipe that you are both a professional, obsessive-compulsive ***** and also illiterate. The rest of your blathering was fairly superfluous from that point.
Floydd Heywood
Doomheim
#57 - 2011-11-30 23:53:24 UTC
I actually made a list of who liked the font on the first ten pages of the FONT thread OP is referring to. I must be really bored.

I scanned the first ten pages like OP did, and found 46 chars posting in favor of the font with another 8 seemingly disliking the new font for aesthetical reasons but thinking it has better readability.

Quote:
Ancy Denaries
Andramedae
Aphoxema G
Ava n'Daara
Boris Ginnungagap
Brujo Loco
Charlie Jacobson
Cozmik R5
Dbars Grinding
Drew Solaert
Earl Hazard
Emiko P'eng
Endeavour Starfleet
flank steak
Grey Stormshadow
Handsome Hussein
Hans Jagerblitzen
Hazzard
H3llHound
Herio Mortis
Hungry Eyes
Kewso
JeanMichel Bizarre
Little Delicious
Louis deGuerre
MaxxOmega
mechtech
Michael Turate
Mr Epeen
Nyx Discordia
Peter Drakon
Ranger 1
Razin
Rellik B00n
Rengerel en Distel
Roime
Shalia Ripper
Tanya Powers
Theodemir
Tippia
Tore Vest
TuonelanOrja
ucntkilme
Vincent Gaines
Xtraneous
Zerakix

The additional 8:
Budrick3
Hirana Yoshida
Jita Alt666
Midnight Hope
RiotRick
Trainwreck McGee
Vaaron Remar
Vachir Khan



The OP has three chars on his list that are also on mine, plus JitaAlt666:

Hazzard
Little Delicious
ucntkilme

Maybe someone wants to doublecheck, but I'm sure about the last two without checking again.

So the people in favor are already a majority after those ten pages. If you check later pages, the people in favor become even more. That is, if you manage to scroll over all the posts by the OP. Check page 15 for example, 14 of 20 posts on the page are by the OP Roll
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#58 - 2011-11-30 23:54:14 UTC
Someone desperatly needs to get laid.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.

Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2011-11-30 23:55:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Ris Dnalor
I thought about deleting my original posts.


But I think I will leave them there to serve as a reminder to myself...


But in my defense I was counting people that had negative things to say about the font.

Many of the posts could be counted in both lists, as they had both positive and negative things to say about the new font..

but anyway...

I'm on the forums, because looking at the newfont for too long makes me ill.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

  • Qolde
Crystal Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
#60 - 2011-11-30 23:59:56 UTC
It must be a bald faced lie!!!!! Evil




OP has made more than 73 negative posts about the font himself Big smile