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New Eden's Sexiest Investment Opportunity
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Cartographica
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-04-03 21:51:18 UTC
The Cartographica Brokerage Firm is an investment opportunity for the entirety of New Eden and is as described below:

Low Risk: 5 - 7.5%
Our Low Risk investment plan serves as a baseline plan for those looking to get their feet wet in long term financial security. Choosing to invest your ISK in this manner will provide a reliable bi-monthly 5 - 7.5% interest rate on your investment. What separates this plan from our others is its vanilla approach to where the ISK is invested. Generally your ISK will be poured into the most reliable trade margins where predictability is the word. These commodities are tried a tested with little to no surprises on a yearly scale. Reliability and security come at the price of lower payouts due to trade on these predictable trends providing lower-end profit margins. Never underestimate the value of financial security though, while payouts are low, you will almost always see your payouts on the higher end of its interest scale and will never have to worry about a market crash.

Medium Risk: 12 - 14.5%
Our Medium Risk investment plan serves as an investment towards the backbone of New Eden's economy. Your ISK will enter the fast-paced environment of trading on commodity market trends that are hot and profitable. This is where you will see your ISK growing off of the careful and dedicated research/analysis into New Eden's market. Interest rates will vary from 12 - 14.5% bi-monthly for all investments under this plan. In terms of financial security, your investment growth will see more movement along its interest rate range depending on market trends and patch note surprises.

High Risk: 19 - 21.5%
Our High Risk investment plan serves as something fit for folks of wealth and taste. This is a plan for if you want to know your ISK will be growing as a result of the most cutting-end market trends that can be identified along with the moving of commodities that are rare, unique, and of immense value. There is a special thrill in knowing that what you invest will only be touching the hands of space elite and with that comes high-end investment returns. You will see interest rates on the range of 19-21.5% bi-monthly. It must be warned though, High Risk is a plan for those seeking the thrill of "high-risk, high-reward" play. Market crashes are a definite threat and there is no way to know where on the interest scale your pay-out will fall. If you are looking for the "Best plan" in terms of risk vs reward, it is strongly advised to stick with our Medium Risk plan.
Cartographica
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-04-03 21:51:30 UTC

Financial Security
Market crashes are a very real threat in EVE online for anyone. In the event of unforeseeable consequences you are guaranteed back 100% of your current balance +5%. All clients will be notified of any such negative trends or fallouts. An additional level of Financial Security can be purchased for 25 million ISK. Just send the 25 million ISK to the corporation the same way all deposits are explained below, but in the reason field enter "Security". In the event that a catastrophic financial event occurs and the Firm is not able to payout to all investors, clients who purchased security will be the first to receive what can be paid out. Multiple security purchases can be made and will be taken into account in terms of how far up the list your account is in terms of financial security. All purchases will need to be made separately. Any Security purchase with a value greater than or less than 25 million ISK in the ISK transferred will be returned.

How do I get started?
In order to open an account and get started, all you will need to do is send the ISK you would like to invest to the Cartographica Brokerage Firm with either "High", "Medium", or "Low" in the reason field. This will allow us to know how you would like the ISK invested. For the sake of simplicity and security, your account will be treated as YOUR character's name and all deposits, withdrawals, and balance inquiries must originate from said character. All values of ISK sent in will be returned if there is no listed reason. NEVER SEND ISK TO ANYONE BUT THE CORP ITSELF. An Investment Broker will NEVER personally ask you for ISK. If you have any questions about the process or just have general investment questions, visit the channel "Cartographica Brokerage Firm" to speak with an Investment Broker.

How do I check my balance?
Simply send an EVE mail to myself, "Cartographica", with the subject line "Balance". If in need of assistance or want a faster response, feel free to visit the channel "Cartographica Brokerage Firm" to speak with an Investment Broker.

Dude, where is my ISK?
All pay-outs will be done on a monthly basis. In order to withdraw, an EVE mail with "Withdraw" in the subject line will need to be sent to myself, Cartographica, before the last interest accumulation period of each month. The last period will be considered to be the middle of the month which will always occur on the 15th. For any withdrawal that is greater than 50% of your current total investment, at least 1 month advanced withdrawal notice will be need. The subject line for those EVE mails will need to be "Full Withdraw" and no ISK value will be needed in the text field given that we will just send you the entirety of your current balance and close your account.

Ok, what is the catch? What do you get from all of this?
There is no catch, it is a business. Our profit margins are greater than the payouts. Simple as that.

Thank you for your time and take the opportunity today to secure your financial prosperity with the Cartographica Brokerage Firm!
Koniforous
Tauren Transit
#3 - 2014-04-03 22:33:46 UTC
In the event that you fail to pay withdrawals, and/or interest, and you must invoke your insurance premium policy, will the insurance be returned as well with the clients' deposits? Will you disclose with clients where their insurance amounts place them on the payout ladder, with regards to other clients' insurance amounts?

Are you involved with any 3rd party for any reasons?

How long have you been performing your market trades?

How do you determine at which end of the scale a client earns in terms of interest? How will you prove to a client that he/she earned 19%, and is not owed 21.5%?

TAUTX: Private Bank & Lending

TAUTX: Collateral Liquidation / Discount Items
Cartographica
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-04-03 22:44:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Cartographica
Koniforous wrote:
In the event that you fail to pay withdrawals, and/or interest, and you must invoke your insurance premium policy, will the insurance be returned as well with the clients' deposits? Will you disclose with clients where their insurance amounts place them on the payout ladder, with regards to other clients' insurance amounts?

Are you involved with any 3rd party for any reasons?

How long have you been performing your market trades?

How do you determine at which end of the scale a client earns in terms of interest? How will you prove to a client that he/she earned 19%, and is not owed 21.5%?


Insurance will be returned as well as the deposits. A client's individual position on the insurance ladder will always be available to said client. As for now the list will be closed to the public, but possibly with permission of the clients I will post a public list with redacted names for any clients who wish to remain anonymous.

3rd parties are in no way needed for the operation.

I have been trading on the market since early 2007.

Percentages will be universal for all clients during the payout periods. Market performance and logs will be disclosed to clients who want to know more about why the numbers were what they were for a particular pay period, but will be closed to the general public. In time a private newsletter will potentially be published along with graphed market performance and a few words from myself on the state of the Firm. The newsletter will be available monthly.
Anders Madeveda
Usque Ad Mortem
#5 - 2014-04-03 22:46:44 UTC
If you are looking for a loan to do station trading traditionally you offer collateral since your toon is unknown and your corporation is only 4 days old.

If this is a serious "brokerage firm" where is the proof you know what your doing in the first place?

Its a little unsettling to see the front man of a corp who wants players to trust him with isk be a proliferate corp jumper. You are in your 9th player corp since 11/17/13, that screams trust me. Most of those other 8 corps you were in for a week at the longest and many of those were pvp oriented corps.
Koniforous
Tauren Transit
#6 - 2014-04-03 22:52:34 UTC
If you say that investors' funds are 100% backed, plus an additional 5% why are you offering high medium and low risk opportunities?

What you're basically saying is: I might pay you anywhere between 5% and 21.5% if you're investments are in the high risk tier. The same goes for the other risk tiers with 5% being the minimum. It makes sense to remove the low and medium risk tiers entirely. But, if you don't remove them, that leads to the obvious concern; where is the difference in risk? If i'm guaranteed 5% minimum, I'd be a fool to place deposits in the "low" risk accounts.

I think the different tiers and insurance premiums will be attractive upfront to people that don't really question the structure here, but ultimately, I think you should rethink your business model. Offering a varying 5% - 21.5% return depending on bi-monthly reports (that you publicly disclose the details of for investors) would be a good start. But, with the addition of an insurance premium this is setting off all sorts of scam alerts.

TAUTX: Private Bank & Lending

TAUTX: Collateral Liquidation / Discount Items
Cartographica
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-04-03 23:01:13 UTC
Koniforous wrote:
If you say that investors' funds are 100% backed, plus an additional 5% why are you offering high medium and low risk opportunities?

What you're basically saying is: I might pay you anywhere between 5% and 21.5% if you're investments are in the high risk tier. The same goes for the other risk tiers with 5% being the minimum. It makes sense to remove the low and medium risk tiers entirely. But, if you don't remove them, that leads to the obvious concern; where is the difference in risk? If i'm guaranteed 5% minimum, I'd be a fool to place deposits in the "low" risk accounts.

I think the different tiers and insurance premiums will be attractive upfront to people that don't really question the structure here, but ultimately, I think you should rethink your business model. Offering a varying 5% - 21.5% return depending on bi-monthly reports (that you publicly disclose the details of for investors) would be a good start. But, with the addition of an insurance premium this is setting off all sorts of scam alerts.


Risk opportunities indicate the likely hood of a market fallout or profit shortcomings. Someone who sticks to our Low risk bracket won't be affected by a financial whirlwind in the high risk bracket. Funds are backed within the security of the insurance system if a full client payout is not possible.

The risk system is due to some players wanting to know their ISK is going to be in their account each pay period while some may enjoy seeing their ISK placed on a riskier field for higher potential gains.
Cartographica
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-04-03 23:20:59 UTC
Anders Madeveda wrote:
If you are looking for a loan to do station trading traditionally you offer collateral since your toon is unknown and your corporation is only 4 days old.

If this is a serious "brokerage firm" where is the proof you know what your doing in the first place?

Its a little unsettling to see the front man of a corp who wants players to trust him with isk be a proliferate corp jumper. You are in your 9th player corp since 11/17/13, that screams trust me. Most of those other 8 corps you were in for a week at the longest and many of those were pvp oriented corps.


I am not looking for a loan, I am offering a service. I have plenty of ISK to do what I do, this is just an opportunity for myself to expand such into a service platform with the potential to generate profits for not only myself, but for a wider selection of the community as well as content. My proof is my word. I am not making anyone invest or accept my word. Cartographica is a market alt who I jumped around while waiting to let his skills level out to be useable and move my operations into a dedicated corp and outlet such as this. He also has a much more interesting name than "marketalt27" which is why I leaned towards using Carto over an even more boring nameless alt. Take the word alt with a grain of salt as well, I play all of my active characters equally and generally at the same time.
Koniforous
Tauren Transit
#9 - 2014-04-03 23:21:11 UTC
Are you saying that, if a full client payout is not possible, you will utilize funds from the insurance pool of lower laddered insurance members to firstly make sure clients are paid from higher up the insurance ladder?

Lets run a scenario: Client 1 has 75mil isk invested, with 50mil insurance isk separate. Client 2 has 50mil isk invested with 25mil insurance isk separate. If there is a catastrophic failure, you're saying that you would take the insurance funds of Client 2, since he's lower on the ladder, to make sure Client 1's funds are 100% backed? If not, how do you intend the insurance system will work?

I think you're misunderstanding the loophole here, unless I am. There is no difference in risk between the accounts if you ALSO state that funds are 100% guaranteed plus an additional 5%. The only risk evident is that high risk tiered investors might get as high as 21.5% or as low as 5%, but will not ever go lower than 5% (similar to the low risk tiers). It's effectively a risk of gain, not loss.

TAUTX: Private Bank & Lending

TAUTX: Collateral Liquidation / Discount Items
Cartographica
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-04-03 23:56:59 UTC
Koniforous wrote:
Are you saying that, if a full client payout is not possible, you will utilize funds from the insurance pool of lower laddered insurance members to firstly make sure clients are paid from higher up the insurance ladder?

Lets run a scenario: Client 1 has 75mil isk invested, with 50mil insurance isk separate. Client 2 has 50mil isk invested with 25mil insurance isk separate. If there is a catastrophic failure, you're saying that you would take the insurance funds of Client 2, since he's lower on the ladder, to make sure Client 1's funds are 100% backed? If not, how do you intend the insurance system will work?

I think you're misunderstanding the loophole here, unless I am. There is no difference in risk between the accounts if you ALSO state that funds are 100% guaranteed plus an additional 5%. The only risk evident is that high risk tiered investors might get as high as 21.5% or as low as 5%, but will not ever go lower than 5% (similar to the low risk tiers). It's effectively a risk of gain, not loss.


Insurance ladders and payout pools are independent for each risk bracket. In the event that something catastrophic market-wise, the higher ups on the insurance ladder will be made sure to be paid out their deposits + 5% in addition to their security deposits. These payouts will continue until individuals can no long be paid. The lower tiers will receive back their insurance deposits. The risk comes into place that there is a better chance of all of the the low risk bracket to receive their payout whereas a high tier has a higher chance that not every investor will receive their payout. These loss chances are low though and it is a bit odd to focus so much on them. Even the high
Rainbow Dash
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-04-04 00:03:37 UTC
Honestly, does anyone still fall for these schemes these days? Roll
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#12 - 2014-04-04 01:38:25 UTC
Folks, this looks to me like a pyramid scheme.

Which means this is an EXCELLENT opportunity to get in at the bottom level, recruit your "friends" to the scheme by telling them about the awesome returns you are getting, then GTFO before it all dies in a heap around the 4th or 5th month.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Thur Barbek
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-04-04 03:02:20 UTC
Rainbow Dash wrote:
Honestly, does anyone still fall for these schemes these days? Roll


Are you saying someone offering 40% monthly interest rates is a liar?!

Fun fact - if he just started with just 5 billion of his own isk at 40% interest a month for a year he would have 263 billion. 16 trillion after two years.

Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
#14 - 2014-04-04 06:57:06 UTC
A pity. If there were an 100% payout option (formerly known as "I double your ISK") people would have flocked to this idea.
Ambo
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#15 - 2014-04-04 07:23:16 UTC
Aside from the fact that this is just an obvious scam..

Cartographica wrote:

I have been trading on the market since early 2007.


Then you're either rubbish at it (in which case you can't support the returns you're offering) or you don't need anyone else's isk.

/thread
Dalden V
Yellow Lounge Industries
#16 - 2014-04-04 08:37:10 UTC
Cartographica wrote:
Cartographica is a market alt


Could you disclose your main character then? As you can imagine, posting with alt does not instill trust.
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#17 - 2014-04-04 11:18:16 UTC
A high risk uncollateralized loan at 9.5% to 10.75% monthly interest, sign me up Roll.

Cartographica wrote:

I am not looking for a loan, I am offering a service. I have plenty of ISK to do what I do, this is just an opportunity for myself to expand such into a service platform with the potential to generate profits for not only myself, but for a wider selection of the community as well as content. My proof is my word.


Ah, so many classics. The 'I don't need your money', the 'I just want to help you' and of course, the recently popular 'I'm a content generator...'.

Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Folks, this looks to me like a pyramid scheme.

Which means this is an EXCELLENT opportunity to get in at the bottom level, recruit your "friends" to the scheme by telling them about the awesome returns you are getting, then GTFO before it all dies in a heap around the 4th or 5th month.


Scammers today are too impatient to run a ponzi/long scam, they just want their ISK right now so they can blow it on whatever gambling website they're not banned from.

Free 3rd party services

Buddy link w/ bonus 250k SP, you keep the whole PLEX upon subscribing
flakeys
Doomheim
#18 - 2014-04-04 12:19:29 UTC
Cartographica wrote:


3rd parties are in no way needed for the operation.





/me must hold laugh in ... 'Offcourse 3rd parties aren't needed for this ' .......

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Cartographica
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-04-04 22:46:43 UTC
It is day 2 and as of 1 hour ago this marks 4.3 billion so far in investments, remember that the nay-sayers will always speak poisonously about the great. Ignore their words and relish this opportunity for securing your financial security in EVE!
Far Wanderer
ACGM Acquisitions
#20 - 2014-04-04 23:05:12 UTC
What is the name of your main and can you disclose your list of investors to date?

I really am wasting my breath though, when you can avoid questions from Hexxx and RAW23 like that you must have some seriously devoted investors. --Elizabeth Norn
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