EVE General Discussion

I've pulled both my alts back to empire for PI. It's a shame because it was fun dodging pirates, but now things will no longer be cost effective in lowsec. I can't afford to spend time defending a PCO there, and I will certainly not put myself at the mercy of the pirates that live there in terms of paying them taxes.

I just don't have the playtime to invest in that venture, sorry.

Same here. I have no idea how this might turn out at the end but for the time being I'm out of lowsec. Sorry local pirates, we had some good time together, but that's one target less for you to hunt down in future

The outcome seems obvious.

PI moves to HiSec.
The additional expense is passed onto the market.
Market stabilizes around the new, higher prices.

This is not going to bring people to Low/Null.
Sorry.

This threads interesting. Two opinions keep showing up.
Low sec systems are now not worth the risk for the reward.
Low can now be profitable for pirates. (If they want to defend their POCOs)

If the tax isn't high then it might still be worth using your colonies specifically if the price for the good produced goes up.
Technically a low sec corp could monopolize 3-4 systems to themselves and get all the P.I. to themselves.

Time will tell.

^ This.

There's not enough profit in it to make it worth the risk. and if there were, we'd see a return to the bad old days of 200m isk cargo expander IIs.

I run PI on one of my characters just as a source of a little ISk from doing much of nothing. I just mine out the basic materials and sell them. Sure, I was surprised at the tax increase, but it's nothing to be too upset over in my opinion. Instead of making 7 or 8 million a day, I now make 6 or 7. Not much in the scheme of things in my opinion.

Fucks over the little guy. Pain in the ass for for med to large corps, and if you're in 0.0...well you just got lucky. Everyone also assumes that 0.0 will suddenly make up the bulk of PI and export it rather than keep it at sustainable levels for themselves. Sorta like minerals. But the opposite was true for mining 0.0 imports most of their minerals.

Time will tell if the same will hold for PI. Or just screw over things...or just raise prices.

Oh man, could you imagine the tears of the griefers if these had forcefields around them, just little ones, but ones big enough you could park in to do PI and still get up to warping speed? Ones you could set who has access by standing?

It would be priceless, the tears of the faux ePirates.

Customs offices are free?



Aaaaaand that proves that it is fail.



Kicking over people's sandcastles isn't "insanity" in Eve; on the contrary, it's the reason many people play.

Insanity = investing ISK to deploy a shielded yet toothless target for lowsec griefers.

Yes, the current Custom Offices are free. You do not have to pay to build your own unless someone blows up the one that is still there.

The Tax Rate is slightly higher to give you incentive to consider building your own. The resource ARE more plentiful in Low Sec, and even with the current higher tax rate you will still make more ISK that you would in High Sec. Just not nearly as much as you would if you put up your own Customs Office. Far from fail, it encourages without forcing.

Blowing up structures is something that is not done in EVE unless you have damn good reason, or are incredibly bored. It is one of the most universally hated aspects of the game. You over estimate the jollies people get out of the activity. Far better to leave it up and have a better chance of snagging ships trying to access it. At least they drop loot and tears.

So no, there is absolutely no reason to destroy your infrastructure and pull out right off the bat. Why would you needlessly throw money away when you can continue to make a profit at no greater risk than you currently have, right up until the current Customs Office gets blown up OR you decide to put up your own to make even more profit (with a bit of risk attached) if nobody looks twice at it.

It is far, far wiser to wait and see what happens.