EVE General Discussion

I got pretty frustrated with game awhile back, and the corp I was in, and then realized it was almost summertime and I had better things to do than play computer games, so I uninstalled. I guess it was a rage quit.

I came back once the rain started back up!

Miss that training time in my skill que now though...

Interestingly enough, I find Eve excellent therapy for the mental illnesses I have been diagnosed with. It's complexity keeps my mind occupied, which is a very good thing.

First of all i would ask you to watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vny-dT8dxQI it deals with League of legends but the reasoning is similar.
There is something in the brain called the fight-or-flight response, its when we mental feel backed into a corner, now in most games you should prevent this state AT ALL COSTS, because it means your no longer thinking about your actions.

In order to win in most games cold calculation is needed, this is also why you see many good fc's and corps be positive even if it makes absolutely no sense to do so, they want to avoid members from hitting this state ( the positive feedback means the members are less likely to have a threat response to what ever is happening on there screen ).
When people hit fight or flight well there brain really can't deal with the internet and spaceships because are brains didn't develop to play video games.
Basically it comes down to players a spiral of problems players will get angry then either choice to fight even if the odds are against them of run away the famous rage quit, now at the time a player feels like there are no reasons to keep playing anymore the game is horrible etc and there for this results in people rage quitting games.
The best solution for anybody thinking about rage quitting is really go do something else for a hour or more then come back and see if you still feel the same way.

Anger.

My real life best buddy, since we were both aged 17 in 1972, is a very nice, highly intelligent man. he is also very, very competitive.

He even cheated at Ludo against my two daughters when they were aged 2 and 4.

I have asked him about losing ships in Eve Online (he will not play it, but has watched me play) and he explained to me that it is not the loss of the ship, but another player beating him that would cause him to be annoyed, very annoyed.

I can understand why people quit, and sometimes I can understand why sometimes they're upset about it.

I'm not sure if I've ever "rage quit" before, though one time it probably seemed like it to the other players. In another MMO, I spent too long as a guild master, which is a ton of work, and worse than herding cats. It becomes a second job, and when you invest so much time, when **** goes wrong it can be really frustrating. I can handle whatever the pixels throw at me, but being on the receiving end of a lot of whining, other people's rage, personal problems, etc takes a toll very fast. Hell, I do that stuff for work and get paid for it, I don't want more if it in my off time, especially when I'm paying for it. If it ceases to be fun, you might as well go do something else, but lots of times that has nothing to do with the game mechanics themselves.

EVE, however, being different from other games, has a very steep learning curve. When I was a new player, I sucked, but I could enjoy doing what I was doing. I loved, and still love, lots of the aspects of the game, and I'm no stranger to losing ships. Logistically in EVE though, its possible to get backed into a corner. You can suddenly do nothing in game, besides provide a kill mail for someone else. As a new player you're especially vulnerable to this. I found myself stuck in a station, no money left to upgrade my clone and keep skill point, stuck with a rookie ship. Guys waiting to gank me as soon as I undocked. My first experience with wardec mechanics, and specifically being a war target.

Keep in mind, new player, only a few allies/corpmates, none of whom were online at the time. Just paid for a second month of subscription. Nothing to do but go offline. Since the opposing corp figured out my predicament, as usual they were unsympathetic, as EVE players are, they just wanted kill mails. Whenever I logged on in the next few days, having a more diverse corp, always some one outside the station waiting. Debated starting a new character, but that was sort of depressing, since I liked this one. Almost cancelled my sub on the face of it. Very close to when I finally was able to get some help from my corpmates, its only then you find out other options so that sort of thing doesn't happen again.

Now I learned those lessons and continued, but they're some pretty tough ones, but I don't find it suprising that some people quit when they feel the odds may be insurmountable. Easy to feel for a vulnerable newbie. Imagine that you really did like something, then suddenly found you couldn't do it. I'd be pretty unhappy if I couldn't do the things I wanted to do in RL.

I've actually lost a spaceship or two due to situations like this.

Same here. I mentioned in another thread, Eve lets me burn out assorted "issues" I have in a controlled environment.

Feeling the activity being engaged in is not providing a compelling reason to want to continue experiencing it.

It's a computer.

I cant tell you what goes on in the brain. Neurons firing as mentioned, in a certain area mostly. That's about it.

I play browsergames where I'm regularly threatened for defeating people. Now you'll probably understand that games like that have a high number of minors in them. Which are people who are by far the most emotional and easily influenced. Getting ragequits from a minor is like stealing cookies from a baby. Why people under the age of 20 are allowed to even speak is sometimes beyond me.
But I've seen my share of "adult" kids so... I'll deal with the majority :)

What I think happens with behavior is frustration about not getting what you want. A certain need is not, or no longer met. A "loss" is most definitely a need that's no longer met. EVE tends to throw losses at you on a regular basis.

The number of ways to deal with it plays a big role. The unpleasant feeling has to be removed, but how?

I think emotional people, pressed against the wall and without being experienced enough to come up with alternatives, will be most likely to ragequit.

I also think ANYONE can be pushed into ragequitting. You ever played monopoly? Watch the guy that lands on the last square before "start" when you just planted a hotel there.

For the record; I'm against griefing. If mommy isnt giving you enough cookies, then others should not be suffering from that. Be a man and take on the one responsible for your misery. Go grief your mom.

Now... I'm off reading the articles about this linked earlier

Interesting point. Being "pressed against the wall" sucks for anyone really. Even if the alternatives are apparent they might not be available at the time. I've had situations in which logging off simply caused the least amount of negative stress, and staying online would not have made a significant difference to the situations outcome anyway. Rage doesn't come into play for me really, but fatalism does.