Player Features and Ideas Discussion

0/10, the troll was too obvious.

The junior programmer had a problem to solve, which required parsing text.

"I know," exclaimed the junior programmer, "I'll use regular expressions!"

Now the junior programmer had two problems.


Your "solution" creates a new range of combat ships, meaning that not only do the barges and exhumers need to be balanced as mining ships, they will also need to be balanced in terms of what they can be used for in combat. So you've not solved the first problem, and in doing so you have introduced a new, bigger problem.

The hulk should have a new pre-req that it can only be flown when you are really really angry...

'What doctrine are they flying?'



'Sir..... It's Hulkageddon.... D:'

Nice to see extra targeting range on the Retriever, now if only gained some capacitor as well...

CCP Fozzie how about adding faction Mining & Ice Mining upgrades to bring mining in line with gun based PVE activities? Plus it would add some value to the ORE LP Store which would go a long way because for the longest time ORE LP have been worth nothing.

I would like to see a mining ship that can use the smaller mining lasers, with a large enough cargo last between jetcans. something like a hybrid between a barge and a destroyer.
But besides my wistful dreams,
Procs/Skiffs aren't effective in high sec without being forced to survey scan constantly....meaning I'm going to use covetors or retrievers, as I mine out belts completely leaving nothing left behind, so I value more lasers.
Coveters fill up so quickly, jet-canning isn't even viable, the only way to use them is having them orbiting the orca and dumping into fleet hangar, meaning more FAR more micromanagement and they can't spread out across the belt or use mining drones effiecienty. EVEN WITH ORCA AND CHARON I'm still ending up picking the retriever/mack... AND

Macks just don't have a good risk vs. reward for use in hi-sec. The insurance on them/their tank isn't enough to justify the use, they are just too weak, too vulnerable to suicide ganking. I can fit dirt cheap fully insured retrievers with no tank or any mods besides a cpu rig and 3 T2 MLUs and just not care when they die (making training for exhumers pointless)


My situation isn't exactly typical but I run 11 active accounts I manually control, 8-9 Barges, 1 Orca, 1 Charon. (it keeps me busy, makes mining more active, its not great isk, they make less isk COMBINED than my main can running incursions, but its a hobby nonetheless.

Summary of What I want/What I value- Ships with enough cargo they won't fill up between jetcans
# of lasers since I mine small rocks in Hi-sec.
T2 ships that have a better risk vs. reward (better insurance on hulk/mack or more buffer)
Perhaps a 2k m3 increase to covetor ore hold, or decrease in jetcan timer.
What I dislike - I don't see much point in using the T2 ships.
The fact that retrievers are the "solo" ships, but even with Orca and Freighter support it's what works best (for me)

It seems CCP is trying to push people towards fleet mining. With the current setup, the disadvantages of the procurer over the retriever(smaller hold) disappear if you have a dedicated hauler.

So you can choose to mine in a fleet, where you have super tanky, have good yield and don't have to haul.

Or you can mine solo, where you have to choose between reducing traveling or having tank.

Except ship specific module code already exists.
Edit: strip miners are already ship specific modules.

And why on earth would you need to balance them from a combat perspective? Industrials can be fitted with weapons, but it's nothing more than gimmick fits and that's all 'combat' barges and exhumers would be, gimmicks. Oh the humanity! The combat hulk is op with it's 3 small AC, slow as dirt speed and fail tank.

I did not run any numbers but somebody was talking about a 360 dps Skiff, combine that with a battleship class tank and I'd say it's really not that 'gimmick' anymore. Sure, you can get better bang for your buck but that goes for a huuuuuge ammount of vessels.