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Yuri Antollare
Moira.
#41 - 2014-04-02 15:23:01 UTC
Beardon wrote:
Veskrashen wrote:
Beardon wrote:
Might be insulted if you guys didn't have two pirate groups working with you. So leet.

Lulz. Everyone knows the pies all have CalMil alts. Noone wants to bother running Gallente FW missions when squid ones are so much easier.

Waffles and company are there for the tears - yours, ours, random passersby... they don't really care.


I get how the pie groups work, and the comment wasn't directed at them, or your working with them; they're fine and working with them is fine. It wasn't even meant to undermine your accomplishment; you guys deserve credit for getting it to vulnerable and being able to organize a quick and tidy flip, no easy task, especially in a home system. I genuinely respect that. But talk of whimpers is uncharitable. The system was able to be flipped because we couldn't fight both pirates and you guys on our off-time.

Whatever, I'm probably just bitter all the action took place when 90% of templis was unable to log on due to work / school... I was expecting to partake in some big epic space battles tonight, not meekly evacing assets.

Good job guys, hope you enjoy it.


Apologies Beardon, the comment was not directed at Templis. Your alliance fought extremely hard during their TZ and fought very well in the build up to the coup de grace, bringing Innia down from 40ish to 20 twice in the days leading up to when the blobs settled in. I was surprised to see some of your guys going toe to toe with us in solo and micro fights during the off hours, many good fights.

However, the Bloc and your other EUTZ counterparts were simply not on the same page. Where Templis threw everything they had while they were on, the euros were fine to watch atrons run a medium and not even try to clear us out with any ship type. The last 20ish percent of Innia was effectively completely uncontested. We we're honestly really dissapointed with them :p

WRT Pirates, the last 9 battles i've had with Swigg they were fighting alongside calmill, also rumor has it some squid alliances are technical blues with them. We don't really have any pirate blues, just being honest.
Mira deVorsha
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#42 - 2014-04-02 15:52:41 UTC
Yuri, While i agree on some parts HECON was present the whole time. With Templis and before. - I FCed most of it. Problem was we could not get the numbers to win.

But was fun to fight with you all.

Full Respect.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#43 - 2014-04-02 17:36:52 UTC
Deacon Abox wrote:
Paging another unimaginative failed nullsec blob alliance to join Calmil (it will happen, it always doesUgh)..
They seem to enter about the time when we take Ladistier.
Yuri Antollare
Moira.
#44 - 2014-04-02 17:50:07 UTC
I guess, but you're talking to people that defended Eha against far higher number disparities. Fights of 4-5 v 20-30+ were commonplace. Yet at points through out EU with Innia the numbers weren't anywhere near that bad. Counting us in the plex and the WT outside of it, you're talking numbers in the range of 25 v 33 (the only specific numbers I saved off a dscan.)

Sure there were times when our fleet would balloon in size, but there were periods where the 'fight' if it happened was near 50/50, still nothing.

That shouldn't be anywhere near "can't try anything so commence local smack" level. The fact that our slightly larger fleet didn't have to ship to cruisers for mediums was pretty indicative of the issue. AFs against derptrons? Trying to get into plexes first with sniper corms (since you're on defence)? Sniper ABC at range harrassing the ihub bash fleet? Bring cruisers for the frigates in your medium? Copying our kestrels accurately and standing toe to toe? Asymmetric tactics - killing the smaller groups running different plexes when more than one are up?....

There was just... nothing, this is the essence of strategy... weaker opponents are supposed to use it to offset deficiences in quality/quantity, but nada What?


I am eternally confounded by calmill, the lack of doctrines, the lack of cooperation, the lack of fitting people trying to stay ahead of the plex meta, the random splitting of forces so the AU/RU half of the militia can die alone in random system A, closely followed by the EU/US half dying alone in random system B, **** just boggles the mind.
Veskrashen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#45 - 2014-04-02 18:50:13 UTC
What Yuri's really trying to say here is that we active GalMil corps welcome the opportunity for our worthy opponents to join our just cause and proceed to roflstompdominate the warzone.

Because really... if The Church of Awesome, Templis, BLOC, etc made the smart move and came over, no power in the 'verse (not even nullbears licking their wounds...) would allow CalMil to get their feet under them ever again. After all, ya'll have seen how GalMil step up and have each other's backs when the chips are down. Don't you really want to be a part of that, deep down?

Then we'd all be able to focus on building our supercap numbers up to counter all the PL hotdrops...

We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."
Simyaldee
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#46 - 2014-04-02 18:58:17 UTC
Veskrashen wrote:
What Yuri's really trying to say here is that we active GalMil corps welcome the opportunity for our worthy opponents to join our just cause and proceed to roflstompdominate the warzone.

Because really... if The Church of Awesome, Templis, BLOC, etc made the smart move and came over, no power in the 'verse (not even nullbears licking their wounds...) would allow CalMil to get their feet under them ever again. After all, ya'll have seen how GalMil step up and have each other's backs when the chips are down. Don't you really want to be a part of that, deep down?

Then we'd all be able to focus on building our supercap numbers up to counter all the PL hotdrops...



Why in holy hell would we wan't to switch simply to dominate the Warzone, or for ANY reason for that matter. Even though CalMil is ****, we at least have SOME pride. If your waiting for someone, without vindictive and selfish reasoning, to switch Miltias don't hold your breath. And considering that BLOC, Templis, Hecon, ETC. Bring you the vast majority of your fights, why would we switch and then suddenly not fight anyone at all.

Member, Fighter and FC for The Great Harmon Institute of Technology 
Veskrashen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#47 - 2014-04-02 19:00:51 UTC
Simyaldee wrote:
Veskrashen wrote:
What Yuri's really trying to say here is that we active GalMil corps welcome the opportunity for our worthy opponents to join our just cause and proceed to roflstompdominate the warzone.

Because really... if The Church of Awesome, Templis, BLOC, etc made the smart move and came over, no power in the 'verse (not even nullbears licking their wounds...) would allow CalMil to get their feet under them ever again. After all, ya'll have seen how GalMil step up and have each other's backs when the chips are down. Don't you really want to be a part of that, deep down?

Then we'd all be able to focus on building our supercap numbers up to counter all the PL hotdrops...



Why in holy hell would we wan't to switch simply to dominate the Warzone, or for ANY reason for that matter. Even though CalMil is ****, we at least have SOME pride. If your waiting for someone, without vindictive and selfish reasoning, to switch Miltias don't hold your breath. And considering that BLOC, Templis, Hecon, ETC. Bring you the vast majority of your fights, why would we switch and then suddenly not fight anyone at all.

Come to the Dark Side. You know you want to.

We have cookies.

We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."
Simyaldee
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#48 - 2014-04-02 19:05:30 UTC
Veskrashen wrote:
Simyaldee wrote:
Veskrashen wrote:
What Yuri's really trying to say here is that we active GalMil corps welcome the opportunity for our worthy opponents to join our just cause and proceed to roflstompdominate the warzone.

Because really... if The Church of Awesome, Templis, BLOC, etc made the smart move and came over, no power in the 'verse (not even nullbears licking their wounds...) would allow CalMil to get their feet under them ever again. After all, ya'll have seen how GalMil step up and have each other's backs when the chips are down. Don't you really want to be a part of that, deep down?

Then we'd all be able to focus on building our supercap numbers up to counter all the PL hotdrops...



Why in holy hell would we wan't to switch simply to dominate the Warzone, or for ANY reason for that matter. Even though CalMil is ****, we at least have SOME pride. If your waiting for someone, without vindictive and selfish reasoning, to switch Miltias don't hold your breath. And considering that BLOC, Templis, Hecon, ETC. Bring you the vast majority of your fights, why would we switch and then suddenly not fight anyone at all.

Come to the Dark Side. You know you want to.

We have cookies.


No. They are probably Oatmeal Raisin anyway.

Member, Fighter and FC for The Great Harmon Institute of Technology 
Veskrashen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#49 - 2014-04-02 19:14:12 UTC
Simyaldee wrote:
Veskrashen wrote:

Come to the Dark Side. You know you want to.

We have cookies.


No. They are probably Oatmeal Raisin anyway.

For you, my friend, special deal. I"ll make you double chocolate chip, served warm from the oven, by a JUSTK Certified Exotic Dancer.

Limited time offer, act now!

We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."
Simyaldee
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2014-04-02 19:28:50 UTC
Veskrashen wrote:
Simyaldee wrote:
Veskrashen wrote:

Come to the Dark Side. You know you want to.

We have cookies.


No. They are probably Oatmeal Raisin anyway.

For you, my friend, special deal. I"ll make you double chocolate chip, served warm from the oven, by a JUSTK Certified Exotic Dancer.

Limited time offer, act now!


Not even slightly tempted. I know the process you use to certify your exotic dancers. It is far from comprehensive, and the oven? You should put more vermin traps in your kitchen if you know what I mean.

Member, Fighter and FC for The Great Harmon Institute of Technology 
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#51 - 2014-04-02 21:42:34 UTC
Don't listen to this guy. He is adding nothing of value to this conversation.

Yuri Antollare wrote:
I guess, but you're talking to people that defended Eha against far higher number disparities. Fights of 4-5 v 20-30+ were commonplace. Yet at points through out EU with Innia the numbers weren't anywhere near that bad. Counting us in the plex and the WT outside of it, you're talking numbers in the range of 25 v 33 (the only specific numbers I saved off a dscan.)

Sure there were times when our fleet would balloon in size, but there were periods where the 'fight' if it happened was near 50/50, still nothing.

That shouldn't be anywhere near "can't try anything so commence local smack" level. The fact that our slightly larger fleet didn't have to ship to cruisers for mediums was pretty indicative of the issue. AFs against derptrons? Trying to get into plexes first with sniper corms (since you're on defence)? Sniper ABC at range harrassing the ihub bash fleet? Bring cruisers for the frigates in your medium? Copying our kestrels accurately and standing toe to toe? Asymmetric tactics - killing the smaller groups running different plexes when more than one are up?....

There was just... nothing, this is the essence of strategy... weaker opponents are supposed to use it to offset deficiences in quality/quantity, but nada What?


I am eternally confounded by calmill, the lack of doctrines, the lack of cooperation, the lack of fitting people trying to stay ahead of the plex meta, the random splitting of forces so the AU/RU half of the militia can die alone in random system A, closely followed by the EU/US half dying alone in random system B, **** just boggles the mind.
Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#52 - 2014-04-02 22:23:25 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Don't listen to this guy. He is adding nothing of value to this conversation.

Yuri Antollare wrote:
some stuff


He wears mirrored shades. You can't trust someone like that. You don't know where he's looking.

You did remove his rolls (?).

mmmm cinnamon rolls.

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#53 - 2014-04-02 22:52:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
Grimwood wrote:
Ebb and flow. In time calmil will get its feet under itself and retake what has been lost.
Good fight to everyone in the campaign and in all future campaigns.
Also Deen Wispa, when will you reconsider marrying me?


When you have the balls and competency to fly proper doctrines and consistently defeat my fleets in battle. Which in this case, is never.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
PlayerNikita
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#54 - 2014-04-02 22:54:53 UTC  |  Edited by: PlayerNikita
Veskrashen wrote:
What Yuri's really trying to say here is that we active GalMil corps welcome the opportunity for our worthy opponents to join our just cause and proceed to roflstompdominate the warzone.

Because really... if The Church of Awesome, Templis, BLOC, etc made the smart move and came over, no power in the 'verse (not even nullbears licking their wounds...) would allow CalMil to get their feet under them ever again. After all, ya'll have seen how GalMil step up and have each other's backs when the chips are down. Don't you really want to be a part of that, deep down?

Then we'd all be able to focus on building our supercap numbers up to counter all the PL hotdrops...


A quote from Lieutenant Colonel calmil rank badge feels really appropriate here, just replace "Caldari Prime" with "Innia":

"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."

- CEP response to Federation demands for unconditional surrender after initial bombardment of Caldari Prime. CE 23155.1.18
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#55 - 2014-04-03 02:24:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Yang Aurilen
Well this sucks. Now I'm homeless AND have no accessible assets. Time to biomass then(No you still can't have my stuff unless you buy it at 200% jita prices).

Also good fights on innia even though you outnumbered us. May my derptrons rest in pieces along with my 6 month old maller that just won't die in vick's armor fleets.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Mira deVorsha
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#56 - 2014-04-03 02:38:00 UTC
I have been so nice all this time... Deen Wispa - NullSEC is to the left sir. you are good at what you do and all i have ever read fromy ou is the Caldari never fight us...


This is FW and we use frigs dest and crusiers...

I dont run if it s a worth while fight. Yet you bring stupid ****. **** off to the left and leave people to playy they game how they wish or just do us all a favor and do one sir,

The gallente did well. you won you beat us yet nothing is good enough for Mr ******* Deen Wispa well sir.. This is why we do not fight you... your a tosser. your no fun and your rude...

Reply if you wish but i wont read it... - Untill you learn that yes we fight but we can still talk and GFS are always welcome. I will ful Mr ******* Perunga any day. as he is a person that will GF no matter what. but you.. your just a 2 faced ****.. Do the gallente know you u give us intell? Or what?

I wont reply to any comment from Deen Wispa the guy needs to go else were.

Again Good job boys!


X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#57 - 2014-04-03 03:47:47 UTC
PlayerNikita wrote:
Quotes and stuff... and things
We're willing to offer you the same conditions for surrender that we gave the boys in Enaluri. Leave FW and we'll allow you to dock in Innia.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#58 - 2014-04-03 03:51:16 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
PlayerNikita wrote:
Quotes and stuff... and things
We're willing to offer you the same conditions for surrender that we gave the boys in Enaluri. Leave FW and we'll allow you to dock in Innia.




LOL.

Roleplaying XGal = Funniest XGal.





https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#59 - 2014-04-03 03:55:01 UTC
Veskrashen wrote:
Simyaldee wrote:
Veskrashen wrote:
What Yuri's really trying to say here is that we active GalMil corps welcome the opportunity for our worthy opponents to join our just cause and proceed to roflstompdominate the warzone.

Because really... if The Church of Awesome, Templis, BLOC, etc made the smart move and came over, no power in the 'verse (not even nullbears licking their wounds...) would allow CalMil to get their feet under them ever again. After all, ya'll have seen how GalMil step up and have each other's backs when the chips are down. Don't you really want to be a part of that, deep down?

Then we'd all be able to focus on building our supercap numbers up to counter all the PL hotdrops...



Why in holy hell would we wan't to switch simply to dominate the Warzone, or for ANY reason for that matter. Even though CalMil is ****, we at least have SOME pride. If your waiting for someone, without vindictive and selfish reasoning, to switch Miltias don't hold your breath. And considering that BLOC, Templis, Hecon, ETC. Bring you the vast majority of your fights, why would we switch and then suddenly not fight anyone at all.

Come to the Dark Side. You know you want to.

We have cookies.



Wait a minute!!!!!

Caldari are the Dark Side and always have been.

Gallente are those little fuzzy Ewoks who are part of the 'good guys'.







https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#60 - 2014-04-03 04:05:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
Mira deVorsha wrote:


rabble rabble about GFs




This coming from the guy who literally has to private convo FCs for arranged fights and ask not to be headshotted. Please...go whelp another 4 carriers due to your own incompetency and blame everyone but yourself.

Better yet, go dig up real life information about me and release it to the public. Oh wait. Spare me your preaching about civility.

PS- Go work on your grammar. Like your FCing, it's incomprehensible and full of errors ;)

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .