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Feedback request on Contract system

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Vartan Sarkisian
Phoenix Connection
Lack of Judgement.
#81 - 2014-04-02 16:57:08 UTC
To be able to Change the price of a contract from anywhere.
To be able to automatically extended a contract say for a further 4 or 5 times if it expires without being sold.
Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
Kvitravn.
#82 - 2014-04-02 17:20:19 UTC
Ali Aras wrote:
For me, I'd like to see a "return" option on courier contracts-- that is, "I can't complete this contract, but here's your stuff back". Why? Well, I accidentally accepted a JF package from Sendaya, back when BL *and* PL were staging there. It contained a container, meaning that with the plastic wrap, it was now *two* containers and impossible to contract back to its owner. This created a bad situation where their stuff was locked in my hangar because of two screwups and some unfortunate mechanics.

There'd have to be a way to prevent abuse tho.
Let's say, I don't want your delivery contract to be completed, so I accept it and return it only just before it ends. Or I rotate it between alts, accept it and return it a day later.
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#83 - 2014-04-02 17:36:18 UTC  |  Edited by: TheSmokingHertog
Suggestion: Please add another public contracting skill, the 21 limit is really to low when using a lot of public shipping contracts.
Keywords: Orders, Management, Contracts, Skills
Note: I run into the limit a lot. See the link for a more extensive writedown
Link: Forum Post

Suggestion: The ability to right-click a courier package and being able to chose 'Set destination' to the destination for delivery.
Keywords: Contracts, Enablers,

Suggestion: When creating a contract, with non-empty containers, please make the YES button SHIFT clickable, so that if you ad 1 NON empty container, you can agree to add them ALL
Keywords: Contract, Enablers

Suggestion: Please make the contract wizard remember settings while opened
Keywors: Contracts
Note: If one would ship something public, but reconsider a few steps in the wizard to a private one, you have to re-select the stuff to be shipped.

Suggestion: Switch the TAB index # within the Courier Contract wizard on the CALCULATE / COLL fields,
Keywors: Contracts
Note: Now you first enter the COLL field and then you can request a EVE estimate on the price of the to be couriered items.

Suggestion: Please make it possible to add a description with double clicking a form field to see its history, just like in web-browsers.
Keywords: Contracts

Suggestion: Please show the number of available contracts while you are within the contracts wizard continually.
Keywords: Contracts, Enablers

Suggestion: Make it possible to scroll down and up in the in the Courier Contract wizard duration field
Keywords: Contracts,

Suggestion: Contract Stack Peeling: Ability for contracts to "peel' one quantity off the top of a higher quantity stack when using copy contract functionality or regular contracting.
Keywords: UI, client,contracts

Suggestion: Allow items in a container to be repackaged, or contracted without having to first move them to the root of the hangar.
Keywords: Containers, Contracts

Suggestion: Allow / fix the blink duration of contracts button
Keywords: Neocom, Contracts
Note: When opening your account, you will not be notified after loading grid of contracts up and around, I want it to blink unto I view all new contracts (make this a settings option, so bigger contractors can not use this setting)

Suggestion: Let us drag / drop station names in the courier contract destination field
Keywords: DragDrop, Contracts
Note: From links in chat, from bookmarks and from station info pls.

Suggestion: Let us see the size of the inventory an exchange contract
Keywords; Contracts, Distribution
Note: I would like to know if I have to bring a freighter or an Iteron V to pick up the contract from my industrial corp mate.

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harro harro
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#84 - 2014-04-02 17:43:07 UTC
The ability to search for exact term, when entering a recipient for a private contract.
For example something like the filters when searching People & Places (partial/exact terms, exact phrase, only exact phrase).

Nothing sucks like having to scroll through 100+ results to find the character you're looking for, just because they have a short/simple name which is used in many longer or more complex names.
Nyjil Lizaru
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2014-04-02 18:05:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Nyjil Lizaru
Gilbaron wrote:
Elise Randolph wrote:
There appears to be a lot of people who don't know that "Copy contract" exists.



yes, it does exist, but you still have to click a bazillion times :(


And (in the case of fitted ships for corp contracts) it doesn't care if the fit is actually the same, or if it's your personal one with paste and extra ammo... AND if you happen to have un-repackaged mods in your item hanger they can get added 'because reasons'

'Copy contracts' is a great idea, it would be better if it actually 'copied'.


And this:

Quote:
1. Show the comments by issuer as one of the columns in the contract listings

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TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#86 - 2014-04-02 18:25:46 UTC
ExookiZ wrote:
If it isnt a huge issue, allowing a contract to be more than 200 items would be nice. When im doing large logistic movements its a PITA to have to make a contract of the first 200 items. Wait 5 min for my assets to refresh, contract the next 200...wait 5 min etc.


refresh you session to speed up this proces (dock / undock works)

a force session renew button would help though!

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#87 - 2014-04-02 18:27:12 UTC
Ncc 1709 wrote:

allow courier contracts with cans in to be contracted


Realize he means that he would like to allow contract-ception... as in, contracting plastic warp with planked containers in them.

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

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TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#88 - 2014-04-02 18:29:22 UTC
Suggestion: Make special plastic wraps

Keywords: Courier, Enablers, PlasticWrap

Note: Make it possible to ship Ores, "ammo types" or 'Special Bay' groups in special contracts. Make it so that they get a wrap of one of the special hold types. Since we have now special bays in Transport Ships, transporters should be able to utilize them (and it would give a reason to train racial industry to V again).

Such a wrap could be shipped in the special bay type of the sort chosen or in a general freight area. I could image that the special wraps would all have a different color, to make it easier for the transport organisations in EVE. Just limit the max. size of the contracts based on the maximum volumes of the volume bays.

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

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TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#89 - 2014-04-02 18:37:29 UTC
alliance contracts please, make them visible on the start page.

also maybe think about giving them a similar high limit like corp contracts, but I don't really care about this part.
Valterra Craven
#90 - 2014-04-02 18:49:52 UTC
Also another idea that should be implemented if it hasn't already and hopefully would be a "little thing" would be a "contract valuation".

Aka just like inventory and cans and now reprocing as of summer all give you the average market value of goods involved, the contract should also show the average value of goods included.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#91 - 2014-04-02 21:17:07 UTC
it would be cool if when buying a fully fit ship there would be the ability to export the fittings to pyfa or EFT. that way you could see what the exact ship you are getting and its fittings.

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Cryten Jones
Advantage Inc
#92 - 2014-04-02 21:54:55 UTC
Contract description showing in a column and searchable
Adunh Slavy
#93 - 2014-04-02 22:05:56 UTC
Some sort of long term loan contracts would be nice, with durations up to six months. Something that could be used to place collateral in escrow. If the borrower fails to pay on the due date, loaner gets the collateral.

Granted it was apparently abused for scams in the past, but has to be a way to make them a bit more robust and resilient.

A nice feature of loans could also have the option to loan anything and have anything as collateral and anything as final payment.

For instance, I want to loan 500 million trit for the collateral of three charons, with a pay out of 3 billion ISK. Or, I want to borrow 100 million megacyte for 160 billion ISK as collateral with a pay out of 400 Navy Ravens. Or, I want to borrow 1 million Zydrine, using 800 million ISK as collateral with a 900 million ISK payout.

M&D community has been clamoring for some sort of financial market interface for, well, ever. A flexible, escrow-using, long term loan contract, could be just the thing.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#94 - 2014-04-02 22:36:13 UTC
The way you can contract to sell an item and then simultaneously contract to get that same item back from the seller is counter-intuitive, unrealistic and rather stupid.
Molic Blackbird
Orion Faction Industries
Orion Consortium
#95 - 2014-04-03 00:09:48 UTC
1. Move the copy contract from the right click menu to a button on the contract itself. As shown in this thread many people don't even know copy contract exists because it is hidden away in the sub-menu.


2. Make the contract button on the neocom continue to blink when changes to your contracts occur. Right now it blinks for about 5 seconds then stops. Prior to the change to the neocom, it would continue to blink like the Mail button does. It would be great to have that feature back.

3. Make a contract type for moving ships. Sure, most ships can be moved with courier contracts, but Capital sized ships are too big to fit. Using item exchange contracts as a work around is very cumbersome. It would be great if I could create a contract to move a freighter, specify the destination, and get collateral all in one.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#96 - 2014-04-03 02:46:32 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
The way you can contract to sell an item and then simultaneously contract to get that same item back from the seller is counter-intuitive, unrealistic and rather stupid.



I consider this a feature.

EVE's universe has no consumer protection agencies like we have in RL, and setting nasty traps in the fine print is very much part of the game.

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Alyssa Haginen
Doomheim
#97 - 2014-04-03 06:44:44 UTC
Loaning ISK at any interest rate and terms as an option in contracts for personal and corps.

One fun PvP feature you could add on to this is collections. If the player wallet is empty the bond holder could have a free war dec on the unpaid party until the damage of ships is equal to the loan amount. Or the party could choose to pay the overdue amount and end the war dec right away. Banking corporations would have a place in the game and incorporate a new role. Other options would include a eve credit score and past loan contract information status. Those who don't pay the loans would be more visible to other loaners.

Add a form of bankruptcy you can claim NPC banking stations. Needs to be set up in such a way it can't be exploited but still allows player to wipe their debt at a very low frequency.
enterprisePSI
#98 - 2014-04-03 08:50:32 UTC
mynnna wrote:
More contract slots please, the fact that I individually can get 300 market slots but only 21 contracts is silly.



God yes this please!

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Anthar Thebess
#99 - 2014-04-03 08:51:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Anthar Thebess
I know that Eve is being simplified - and i don't like this, still scammers and spamers are so annoying that i can vote for this change.

What do i suggest.
- you cannot link on public, and NPC alliance channels expired or closed contracts.
( spamming/scamming 1mil, 1mil, 1bil ships)
- you cannot have 2 same items that you offer and want in return.
( want to sell pex for 500mil , and at the same time request plex in return)
- contracts containing plex cannot be dragged on public and NPC alliance chanells. This is so specific item that can be excluded from this. People that seach for plex on cotracts will always find it - and this can save few players from quiting the game after being scammed in few first weeks of play.


Curier contracts.
- every one can deliver contracts when they are on the destination.
- drugs on contracts - allow them, just :
- move it to other category type
- give player accepting some warning.
- give this wrap second icon.

Moving drugs from one nullsec station to another nullsec station should be allowed via contracts.

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Mangala Solaris
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#100 - 2014-04-03 09:25:24 UTC
Most of the issues I have are already mentioned over the course of this thread.

However one I just noticed this morning. When people setup a WTB/Gift request contract let them specify copy or original when it comes to blueprints.

I asked a bunch of people to do a gift contract to me for me to gift them a police pursuit comet blueprint, I was unable to fulfil it as the contract system expected me to use an original, not the copies you get from the lp store.