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Vol Arm'OOO
Central Co-Prosperity Union
#41 - 2014-03-12 13:18:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Vol Arm'OOO
Carebear is anybody who does not pvp the way you want them to; this includes but is not limited to: people who do not pvp at all; people who stay in highsec; people who blob; people who use ecm; people who use logistics; people who use links; people who hide in null to avoid pvp; people who blops or otherwise use a cyno; people who run from fights where they are out numbered; people who use ship types that you dont like; etc. . .

I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
Lemon Nado
The Circus Corp
#42 - 2014-03-12 14:44:20 UTC
Brink Albosa wrote:
Carebear or carebearing is a verb to me. Calling someone a carebear can be derogatory like using "noob."

See also nullbear, yarrbear.


Nahhh.... Carebear is a choice, Noob is what you are when you start. You cannot not be a noob. At least not for a certain peroid of time.

A carebear is a PvP player who has not been ganked yet! Lol
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#43 - 2014-03-12 14:58:06 UTC
Lemon Nado wrote:
Brink Albosa wrote:
Carebear or carebearing is a verb to me. Calling someone a carebear can be derogatory like using "noob."

See also nullbear, yarrbear.


Nahhh.... Carebear is a choice, Noob is what you are when you start. You cannot not be a noob. At least not for a certain peroid of time.

A carebear is a PvP player who has not been ganked yet! Lol


Wrong.

You have a chose being a noob.

When you start you are a newb.

Those are 2 totally different things.

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#44 - 2014-03-12 15:00:18 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Lemon Nado wrote:
Brink Albosa wrote:
Carebear or carebearing is a verb to me. Calling someone a carebear can be derogatory like using "noob."

See also nullbear, yarrbear.


Nahhh.... Carebear is a choice, Noob is what you are when you start. You cannot not be a noob. At least not for a certain peroid of time.

A carebear is a PvP player who has not been ganked yet! Lol


Wrong.

You have a chose being a noob.

When you start you are a newb.

Those are 2 totally different things.

Now with pictures!

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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#45 - 2014-03-12 15:16:51 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Serious (and more general) answer:

Anyone who does everything they can to avoid ship-on-ship PvP and...
- proceeds to whine about being "forced" into such a situation (usually on the forums and/or to the developers)
- refuses to learn from the experience and adapt accordingly


So you can be an industrialist or miner or missiong runner... but not be a "carebear."


I'd go with this one personally. The main thing is the drive to avoid PVP at all costs.

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Lemon Nado
The Circus Corp
#46 - 2014-03-12 17:30:51 UTC

Now with pictures![/quote]

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lolz.... cool comic

Lemo the noob
Brink Albosa
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2014-03-13 06:13:31 UTC
Big smile
Alexhandr Shkarov
The MorningStar. Syndicate
#48 - 2014-03-13 11:07:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexhandr Shkarov
You've ever seen the kind of player in your corporation that will do a lot of stuff for the corporation, but the moment they smell any form of PVP they run like hell, dock up and in case it's a wardec, they do not even log in onto the game?

That's a carebear.

(And people who make overly priced shitfits like Jimblidge did. Source: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=22280912)

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Kiratai Chelien
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2014-03-13 12:31:02 UTC
If I'm exploring in my Imicus of course I avoid pvp. That thing is just cannon fodder.
But every time I undock I expect trouble and am prepared for it (spend most of my time in lowsec btw) and when I do lose the odd ship it's a learning experience for me...what did I do wrong...how can I avoid that next time.
I do everything I can to lower the risk of whatever I'm doing, that's not being carebear, it's just common sense to me.

Pirates, gankers etc want to pod me and steal my stuff, I want to prevent them doing that...that's just all part of the game to me.
Do I laugh when I leave the gate gang behind me because I fitted a cloak,mwd and warp stabs? Of course I do :) Would I expect them to laugh if they got past my defences and blew my *** up? Of course I would :)

I think the question of carebears was answered best in another post I read..it comes down to attitude, not how you choose to play.
Am I a carebear? Who the hell cares?
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#50 - 2014-03-15 07:06:57 UTC
If you read Minerbumping.com, you'll quickly understand what a carebear is.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#51 - 2014-03-15 07:32:17 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
If you read Minerbumping.com, you'll quickly understand what a carebear is.


confirming gankers are carebears too
Snagletooth Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2014-03-15 11:07:30 UTC
Eve Carebear
1) noun; Anyone not playing "you're" game the way you want them to.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#53 - 2014-03-15 15:42:57 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Lemon Nado wrote:
Brink Albosa wrote:
Carebear or carebearing is a verb to me. Calling someone a carebear can be derogatory like using "noob."

See also nullbear, yarrbear.


Nahhh.... Carebear is a choice, Noob is what you are when you start. You cannot not be a noob. At least not for a certain peroid of time.

A carebear is a PvP player who has not been ganked yet! Lol


Wrong.

You have a chose being a noob.

When you start you are a newb.

Those are 2 totally different things.

Now with pictures!


Thanks Petrus, I was on my phone at the time of the post so couldn't link that picture.

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Seraphi Nephalis
Seraphi Nephalis Corporation
#54 - 2014-04-01 19:17:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraphi Nephalis
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:


If the will only enter combat when they have overwhelming force and are thus guaranteed to win. They are a carebear.


This is the only part I disagree with. Seems to me that if you can utterly smash your opponent with overwhelming force, that it's good tactics. Minimize your risk, while making your enemies pay as much as possible.

The only problem is that if you're tricked into thinking you have overwhelming force, when really you don't. I.E.: Baited, then ambushed by a counterattack.


But on topic, it seems to me that carebear is a derogatory term most often used to describe someone who doesn't play in an aggressive way similar to your own. Usually in regards to people who aren't interested in direct PvP.

So what if a person hides in a station during a wardec? Maybe they don't have combat skills trained. As long as they're bringing resources into your corp, are they required to fight? Maybe you should have explained and agreed on that when you hired them?

I think it's wrong to try and lump everyone who tries to avoid risk into a single group. There are many reasons to want to avoid combat, and not all of them have anything to do with cowardice, weakness, or selfishness that's commonly associated with the term 'carebear'.

"What a sad world we live in, where politeness is mistaken for weakness."  - Usagi Yojimbo
Silver Dagger Kondur
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2014-04-01 19:35:17 UTC
Seraphi Nephalis wrote:
... Seems to me that if you can utterly smash your opponent with overwhelming force, that it's good tactics. Minimize your risk, while making your enemies pay as much as possible.


Agreed.
"if we are able thus to attack an inferior force with a superior one, our opponents will be in dire straits."
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#56 - 2014-04-01 20:53:25 UTC
Generally, people who shoot at other people who dont shoot back, will call the people who dont shoot back carebears.
Or someone who DOES shoot but has no idea how the pvp mechanics work, at all, and so dies horribly and sometimes embarrasingly.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#57 - 2014-04-02 00:11:59 UTC
Carebears are the people that want Eve to be a single player game, especially with regards to highsec and non consensual PvP. They want CCP to adapt the game to suit them, not adapt themselves to the game.

It's possible to be a PvE player without being a carebear.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#58 - 2014-04-02 15:48:43 UTC
Forest Archer wrote:
Another variation is one whose sole goal is focused around the accumulation of wealth/Isk usually through pve often to get better mods/(gear) only to be better at pve.

These people inevitably die in shame.
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