Market Discussions

I didn't even know this skill existed till earlier today. Reading about it, it doesn't seem very useful to me?

Training this up to level 5 means that i only have to pay 76% of order value when i set the buy order up, and the other 24% will come out of my wallet when the sale actually take place?

for a rank 3 skill too..how is this useful? am i missing something?

If you are serious about trading, it allows you to leverage your capital substantially more than trading without it. It sometimes requires you to resell in a reasonably short time frame to re-inject capital in to the pot though, especially if you are pushing it to the limit and holding only a small float.

probably not

it's meant for large amounts of buy orders or large quantities with a low minimum quantity


so you can post a buy order that you don't expect to fill for weeks/months and only have to put down 24%

easier to turn over your isk that way.

It's main use is Margin Trading scams.

"Has anyone seen this Market Epic Fail? lololololo I wish I had the ISK!"

That's no its main use, just its most visible use.

Yes and No.

The skill's behaviour is not easy to comprehend (at least not to me the first time I tried to figure it out) and it's not very well described in its info window.

The thing is: when buying an item, escrow gets depleted first.

I initially assumed that for each item bought, 24% come from escrow and 76% from your wallet. But that's not how it works. For the first items, 100% of the buy price will be taken from escrow, leaving your wallet intact and not reducing it by a single cent. Once escrow has been consumed, the full price is taken from your wwallet.

Think of it as a small upfront loan.

Is it strange to note, that a lot people (in EVE) don't have a clue about levers, let alone leverage factoring in trade... how do people handle with this in RL?

If you don't have sufficient ISK between escrow and your wallet at the time the order would be filled ,the order will fail and you will forfeit your broker fees (your escrow will be refunded).

MT is *extremely* useful if you buy items where supply is irregular. Without MT, placing a buy order for a 100m deadspace module ties up 100m of your ISK. WIth MT at 4 (generally a good level to have it at), it ties up 32m instead, letting you place buy orders on 2 more similar modules.

Assuming you only have 100m available, you can use that to buy the first of the three modules that someone is willing to sell you, rather than just being able to buy one specific one.

With MT5 you can buy the first of 4 instead, but MT5 is a big commitment to trading and (IMO) should be done after Broker Relations 5, Accounting 5 and Wholesale 5. Every character that dabbles in trading should get MT 3 or 4.

Try having buy orders in 4 regions for about 30 B each and knowing that with this skill you actually only need a small portion to accomplish that .


It is the most usefull skill there is when it comes to maintaining a high amount of buy orders and for newer traders the most helpfulll thing you can have to expand in a faster pace then you could think possible.