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Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#41 - 2014-03-26 10:58:50 UTC
so sad story, newbie escaped from your superior ship by using some tricks everyone knows and uses :(

so sad these days that almost everyone knows something about how to play eve , no more ganking clueless noobs
Dan Carter Murray
#42 - 2014-03-26 11:45:02 UTC
Flav Mine wrote:
i was wondering why this cloak microdrive warp exploit hasnt been fixed or abolished, and what other players think of this ridiculous feature. i understand some things have just been looked past or left go in the hope that gamers might not find or use these exploits but this is ridiculous.

i chased a drake in my legion 2 systems and overtake him on a gate i burn back pre load and over heat mods to tackle, as he comes through i find i cannot lock him ? cloaked hahaha np already spammed my Q approach hotkey quick tap on full speed to keep it up i got him wheres he gonna go? he uncloaks and insta warps leaving me screaming to my corpies on comms "what the...... no way" they reply hit cloak plus micro uncloak and insta warp. my reply was this:

how in the hell can this be possible it go's against all the physics within this game
1. if i cloak a bc my speed is reduced significantly meaning it will take quite some time to reach the: i will call this "speed bracket needed to warp"
2. if i use my microdrive during a fight lose tackle chasing him is also lagged as im to fast for warp and have to wait for speed reduction to fall into the so called "speed bracket needed for warp"
3 . using the above 2 terms you can be either to slow to warp or to fast to warp so there is a certain speed braket for each ship to fall within before warp initiates.

my conclusion is:
if i align cloak (reducing max speed) i would never be able to reach a point exactly within this bracket to initiate a so called insta warp
add a microdrive burst to this i should surpass my warp bracket and need to fall back into it before warp initiates hence this should be fixed.
if not i feel all ships from this point should have the need to reduce speed before warp restriction removed EG: so when i bounce in my dread and need to warp i dont have to wait 5 minutes for it to slow down (fall within this warp bracket), or in another example: to give chase in my legion again after being screwed by an exploit rather than out skilled by a pilot.

please reply with your thoughts on this and wheather you are por exploit or against


not exploit, stop camping gates like a carebear pvper

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Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#43 - 2014-03-26 11:59:09 UTC
I'm fine with the MWD+cloak trick, CCP has on a number of occasions stated it is not an exploit.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2014-03-26 12:23:59 UTC
The MWD-cloak trick isn't a guaranteed getaway in any case. It's got to be executed properly, the target's got to have a bit of luck with how the server ticks land, and even then, there are counters to it.

There's a bit of a roll of the dice in almost any engagement. The OP just happened to roll craps this time.

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masternerdguy
Doomheim
#45 - 2014-03-31 04:18:59 UTC
The cloak warp "exploit"?

Is that what kids are calling it these days? Man, I remember when it was called the cloak warp trick and was used to get valuable cargo past enemy gate camps. Times have changed, I guess anyone who manages to outwit a gate camp must be cheatingRoll

You want to know how to catch any cloaker? It's easy. You just need about 40 people on a non-regional gate. Have everyone orbit the gate at 12km and it becomes highly unlikely they will be able to cloak. It really is that simple, you just need to find more buddies.

If your in nullsec you can even anchor one of those fancy large T2 mobile bubbles to get an edge. Real gate camps use T2 large bubbles.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#46 - 2014-03-31 07:49:12 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
The cloak warp "exploit"?

Is that what kids are calling it these days? Man, I remember when it was called the cloak warp trick and was used to get valuable cargo past enemy gate camps. Times have changed, I guess anyone who manages to outwit a gate camp must be cheatingRoll

You want to know how to catch any cloaker? It's easy. You just need about 40 people on a non-regional gate. Have everyone orbit the gate at 12km and it becomes highly unlikely they will be able to cloak. It really is that simple, you just need to find more buddies.

If your in nullsec you can even anchor one of those fancy large T2 mobile bubbles to get an edge. Real gate camps use T2 large bubbles.


if it is slow ship it is enough that you have some fast ship, example cynabal, so you can go and uncloak target and maybe even bumb it before he warps. It is not easy to do but i've seen many skilled pilots who can do it.

also you can bumb people who land to gate and try to jump, if they miss the jump button or land bit short they can be bumbed off from gate, again this is hard but doable, i've seen how cynabal bumb shuttle off gate.
cpt Varox
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2014-03-31 08:13:00 UTC
OP ! Stop beeing so bad at eve, you fresh water pirate! Catching a mwd trick ship is preaty easy, if you ar mobile and manual fly towards the last place you saw him decloak.

If you cant be a decent pvper feel free to self distruct , cancel accounts and transfer all your assets to me beforehand.

PS: Your tears are delicious!
Flaming Forum Spammer
Doomheim
#48 - 2014-03-31 14:29:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Flaming Forum Spammer
it's a feature, get better or as someone said, get a lot of concord around the gate so they decloak your target.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#49 - 2014-03-31 18:52:37 UTC
Gais a carebear found out how to avoid my solo gatecamp and demand ccp change it nao!

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
General Nusense
Doomheim
#50 - 2014-04-01 17:55:46 UTC
CCP " fixed" this a while ago the reverted the change back. You should search the forums before bringing up stupid crap that has been addressed and is working as intended.

Made a signature so I am taken seriously on the forums, since thats the only thing they are good for.
Jordan Kandou Worley
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#51 - 2014-04-03 03:13:16 UTC
Deal with it Cool
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#52 - 2014-04-03 09:39:14 UTC
Agondray wrote:
Gais a carebear found out how to avoid my solo gatecamp and demand ccp change it nao!


I too don't understand why people would camp a gate. I also don't understand why people don't use remote sebo'ed ashimmus/vigilants to make sure that whatever is jumping in also stays here, given the camper got a numerical advantage of 5:1 in average.
Flav Mine
TACTICAL AGGRESSION
#53 - 2014-04-16 00:49:15 UTC
omg still going on about gate camping there is no gate camp mentioned we were a small fleet came across a drake chased it down. not my fault he gave me one option gate to gate

now its a discusion about gate camping as it seems most of you think this is pvp, to those i say fix your KB before calling out "elite pvp" half the trolls have worse KB than my indi alt. and are trying to give tips its pathetic. all i see is tears from former victims of pilots like me crying about losses they had 12 mths ago. pay back on the field not forum.

except the fact that that in lowsec 99% of wanna be pvpers hug the station or the gate like its their mummies tittie very rarely do i see people other than other pirates willing to step beyond.

when we fight in our so called "superior ships" as you call em remember, we dont just fight you we take gate and/or station aswell making all fights a minimum of 2v1 because you wont fight anywhere else.

so to end this discussion i got the answer explained by 1 person and im satisfied with the result rabbits will run as best they can and the wolves will deploy better tactics to capture and destroy your only hope to venture into the wild, where true pvp is more than the F1 key
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#54 - 2014-04-16 01:55:31 UTC
Thank you for bumping this thread so I can have a chuckle at your expense once again. This was a good one Bear
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#55 - 2014-04-16 09:14:56 UTC
Muerto Kuha and Flav Mine are very obviously the same person using two accounts, which makes me have to say: Why not make one of your accounts into a super tackler while your main (which one is your main, btw?) does the shooting?

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Serrated Razr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2014-04-16 13:35:58 UTC
haha this is funny!!
Nathaniel Oak
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#57 - 2014-04-16 19:03:14 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Muerto Kuha and Flav Mine are very obviously the same person using two accounts, which makes me have to say: Why not make one of your accounts into a super tackler while your main (which one is your main, btw?) does the shooting?


No, while both have a tenuous grasp on the English language one reads like he was educated via text message. You don't type that stupid unless you have to.
PlatinumMercSEAL
Center for Advanced Studies
#58 - 2014-04-17 00:27:24 UTC
Flav Mine wrote:
i was wondering why this cloak microdrive warp exploit hasnt been fixed or abolished, and what other players think of this ridiculous feature. i understand some things have just been looked past or left go in the hope that gamers might not find or use these exploits but this is ridiculous.

i chased a drake in my legion 2 systems and overtake him on a gate i burn back pre load and over heat mods to tackle, as he comes through i find i cannot lock him ? cloaked hahaha np already spammed my Q approach hotkey quick tap on full speed to keep it up i got him wheres he gonna go? he uncloaks and insta warps leaving me screaming to my corpies on comms "what the...... no way" they reply hit cloak plus micro uncloak and insta warp. my reply was this:

how in the hell can this be possible it go's against all the physics within this game
1. if i cloak a bc my speed is reduced significantly meaning it will take quite some time to reach the: i will call this "speed bracket needed to warp"
2. if i use my microdrive during a fight lose tackle chasing him is also lagged as im to fast for warp and have to wait for speed reduction to fall into the so called "speed bracket needed for warp"
3 . using the above 2 terms you can be either to slow to warp or to fast to warp so there is a certain speed braket for each ship to fall within before warp initiates.

my conclusion is:
if i align cloak (reducing max speed) i would never be able to reach a point exactly within this bracket to initiate a so called insta warp
add a microdrive burst to this i should surpass my warp bracket and need to fall back into it before warp initiates hence this should be fixed.
if not i feel all ships from this point should have the need to reduce speed before warp restriction removed EG: so when i bounce in my dread and need to warp i dont have to wait 5 minutes for it to slow down (fall within this warp bracket), or in another example: to give chase in my legion again after being screwed by an exploit rather than out skilled by a pilot.

please reply with your thoughts on this and wheather you are por exploit or against

It is definitely an exploit.

Captain PlatiumMercSEAL, Deep-Space Wraiths (Independent Null Sec Mercenary Corporation)
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2014-04-17 01:51:35 UTC
Well someone had to contribute tears in this situ. OP, thanks for stepping up.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
King Fu Hostile
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#60 - 2014-04-17 04:25:23 UTC
Flav Mine wrote:
omg still going on about gate camping there is no gate camp mentioned we were a small fleet came across a drake chased it down. not my fault he gave me one option gate to gate

now its a discusion about gate camping as it seems most of you think this is pvp, to those i say fix your KB before calling out "elite pvp" half the trolls have worse KB than my indi alt. and are trying to give tips its pathetic. all i see is tears from former victims of pilots like me crying about losses they had 12 mths ago. pay back on the field not forum.

except the fact that that in lowsec 99% of wanna be pvpers hug the station or the gate like its their mummies tittie very rarely do i see people other than other pirates willing to step beyond.

when we fight in our so called "superior ships" as you call em remember, we dont just fight you we take gate and/or station aswell making all fights a minimum of 2v1 because you wont fight anywhere else.

so to end this discussion i got the answer explained by 1 person and im satisfied with the result rabbits will run as best they can and the wolves will deploy better tactics to capture and destroy your only hope to venture into the wild, where true pvp is more than the F1 key


you are the 1%

we understand it can be hard for a messiah to be dragged down by the hoi polloi, but you have to stay strong, Flav, for the mankind. You are our light, our way, and we submit ourselves to your mercy.