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What kind of world would Eve be without internet anonymity?

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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#61 - 2014-04-01 08:05:11 UTC
To reply more to the OP.

If you think you have anonymity now on the internet, you are seriously deluded.

No i am not talking NSA or anything like that. I am talking about simple things.. like are you logged into facebook right now? Yahoo? Google?

The internet has never been particularly anonymous. That is more of a Hollywood movie thing.

AKA the scientist.

Death and Glory!

Well fun is also good.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#62 - 2014-04-01 08:24:29 UTC
The first thing that would change is that the Russians would own all of nullsec within a week.

*knock knock*

You: Hello?

Five Big Scary Dudes: My name is Ivan Chekov. You vill be removing sov structures tomorrow. Understand?

You: *pee*

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Grunanca
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2014-04-01 08:44:28 UTC
Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:
Hevymetal wrote:


Would most Eve players remain sadistic psychos or would their attitudes and playstyles change? Would you still gank and pod that helpless miner knowing he could very well track you down in real life?


Hell yeah, miners are nothing but talk IN GAME, let alone they'/d actually do something IRL. Lol


But all kidding aside, I'd stop playing the game.



They would would go afk in their car while hitting you. After which they would say a script in their car made it hit youBlink

But yeah, I agree with you. I would quit too. Too many sick people out there to bother risking your life for a game. Just like some drawings of people who might lived some 1000 years ago can put your life in danger..... Sigh!
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#64 - 2014-04-01 08:48:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
The first thing that would change is that the Russians would own all of nullsec within a week.

*knock knock*

You: Hello?

Five Big Scary Dudes: My name is Ivan Chekov. You vill be removing sov structures tomorrow. Understand?


Id immeadiately find all the Finnish corps and (after learning as much Finnish as I could) pledge allegience in exchange for a pop at a Muscovite

Skis, rifle, white hunting smock, done

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#65 - 2014-04-01 09:52:32 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Accountability and social pressure are huge forces in shaping personal behavior.

Which have exactly 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 of an influence in an online interaction because ,
no one can punch you through your keyboard.
Facebook and Twitter exemplify this all the time.


I really need to say something here.

That's just the prettiest sig I've seen in this forum, Ralph.

Mr Epeen Cool

shamelessly stolen .

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Kirsi Kirjasto
Aggressive Structural Steel Expediting Services
#66 - 2014-04-01 09:59:48 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:


He didn't assert that. He asked a question. I see someone just cannot stop distorting things.


No, it's legitimate.

I unsubbed from Facebook about 3 years ago. The experience was horrific.

And the idiocy was caused by people I had known since the age of 13. My very high school graduating class folks, if you can believe that.

They were using FB to organize our reunion (1983), and about half of them (this is Texas) got involved in the stupid Tea Party Nonsense.

My good lord....the hatred and scumbaggery these people revealed. And they would just not stop with the incessant propaganda.

People will always distort Internet groups of any kind towards their own agenda.

I can never ever be in a room with those people again.


Internet anonymity or non-anonymity.....it all turns out exactly the same.



I think you should have listened to some of those people. Tragic that you didn't, they might have been able to help you with your problem.
PhatController
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#67 - 2014-04-01 13:17:35 UTC
Nothing....unless I happen to come across someone I know in RL (unlikely) then how does knowing my real name make any difference....
Varg Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#68 - 2014-04-01 13:19:59 UTC
Boring
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#69 - 2014-04-01 13:22:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Hevymetal wrote:
With all the crazy laws being passed in various countries. What would the ramifications be if noone's real identity could remain hidden? Kinda like China already, but to a greater extent.

Would most Eve players remain sadistic psychos or would their attitudes and playstyles change? Would you still gank and pod that helpless miner knowing he could very well track you down in real life?

How much of a difference would it make in the Eve universe knowing (PlayerX) is really John Doe? How many players would continue to actually play? Would it mean the death of Eve as we know it or merely an evolution to a nicer universe?



RAMPANT identity theft and holy **** would this game die so fast


LOL, i really want someone to steal my identity. And when he drawn in bill collector calls , he'll be sorry! Note to self: real life creditors do not accept PLEX for some reason.

I'm like that Chris Rock joke: "Man, I'm so poor, if a dude tries to rob me, he'll just be practicing" lol.
Qalix
Long Jump.
#70 - 2014-04-01 13:24:41 UTC
I think this game could achieve it's true potential if everyone had 1 account that was tied to a passport (not necessarily publicly viewable, but kept on record by CCP), and each character was visibly linked to the other characters on the account.

The spy game has ruined the potential of EVE to be more like the battle room of Ender's Game. It would be nice to be able to focus on fleets, fights, and the like without all the other baggage EVE brings with it.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#71 - 2014-04-01 13:28:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Qalix wrote:
I think this game could achieve it's true potential if everyone had 1 account that was tied to a passport (not necessarily publicly viewable, but kept on record by CCP), and each character was visibly linked to the other characters on the account.

The spy game has ruined the potential of EVE to be more like the battle room of Ender's Game. It would be nice to be able to focus on fleets, fights, and the like without all the other baggage EVE brings with it.


EVE isn't a battle arena, it is (among other things) an all encompassing conflict simulator. Spying is a part of conflict and without it (and the danger of it) EVE would be much diminished.
Mario Putzo
#72 - 2014-04-01 13:28:53 UTC
Qalix
Long Jump.
#73 - 2014-04-01 14:11:17 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
[quote=Qalix]EVE isn't a battle arena, it is (among other things) an all encompassing conflict simulator. Spying is a part of conflict and without it 9and the danger of it) EVE would be much diminished.

Is it seriously not possible to have any discussions about EVE that don't immediately pivot into "This is what EVE is, deal with it?" Can you not cast off your role as protector of the status quo for 5 minutes to just shoot the **** about what if's and whimsical thoughts?
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#74 - 2014-04-01 14:12:41 UTC
Qalix wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
[quote=Qalix]EVE isn't a battle arena, it is (among other things) an all encompassing conflict simulator. Spying is a part of conflict and without it 9and the danger of it) EVE would be much diminished.

Is it seriously not possible to have any discussions about EVE that don't immediately pivot into "This is what EVE is, deal with it?" Can you not cast off your role as protector of the status quo for 5 minutes to just shoot the **** about what if's and whimsical thoughts?


EvE would be destroyed as we know it.

Is that an acceptable way to express an opinion for you?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#75 - 2014-04-01 14:13:07 UTC
Qalix wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
[quote=Qalix]EVE isn't a battle arena, it is (among other things) an all encompassing conflict simulator. Spying is a part of conflict and without it 9and the danger of it) EVE would be much diminished.

Is it seriously not possible to have any discussions about EVE that don't immediately pivot into "This is what EVE is, deal with it?" Can you not cast off your role as protector of the status quo for 5 minutes to just shoot the **** about what if's and whimsical thoughts?


In fairness to Jenn, from what you're describing, you are probably playing the wrong game.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Qalix
Long Jump.
#76 - 2014-04-01 14:30:21 UTC
Is it not possible to have a discussion that doesn't devolve into this kind of silliness? Just put some ideas out there and play with the ideas. There's no need to get dogmatic over every little thing.


BTW, destroying EVE as we know it is a good thing. If you don't agree with that statement, you'll never post a "fix this," "change that," or "add something" thread and you'll never complain about anything CCP does. If you loved EVE exactly as it is, you wouldn't want to change it for any reason, would you? Roll
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#77 - 2014-04-01 14:34:42 UTC
Qalix wrote:
Is it not possible to have a discussion that doesn't devolve into this kind of silliness? Just put some ideas out there and play with the ideas. There's no need to get dogmatic over every little thing.


BTW, destroying EVE as we know it is a good thing. If you don't agree with that statement, you'll never post a "fix this," "change that," or "add something" thread and you'll never complain about anything CCP does. If you loved EVE exactly as it is, you wouldn't want to change it for any reason, would you? Roll


Destroying the fundamental nature of the game as opposed to fixing things that already exist in the game as it is.

Yeah, sorry, no equivalency there, if you ask me.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#78 - 2014-04-01 14:36:14 UTC
Qalix wrote:
Is it not possible to have a discussion that doesn't devolve into this kind of silliness? Just put some ideas out there and play with the ideas. There's no need to get dogmatic over every little thing.


You started it, you invaded Poland (metaphorically, Im not calling you Russia or Germany or Sweden, its just a quote)

Qalix wrote:
BTW, destroying EVE as we know it is a good thing. If you don't agree with that statement, you'll never post a "fix this," "change that," or "add something" thread and you'll never complain about anything CCP does Roll


I dont.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Kaidu Kahn
POT Corp
#79 - 2014-04-01 17:06:41 UTC
I would think MOST players would continue to do excatly what they do now.

I also think there would be a few who would change their playing stlye out of the fear of the potential of getting their real life a** kicked for being an ingame sociopath.

Then there would be the very minor percentage who would be worse ingame, wanting to to see their RL effects on their ingame targets. These are the RL sociopaths.
Lady Areola Fappington
#80 - 2014-04-01 17:12:33 UTC
I thought the whole "removal of internet anonymity" was the motivation behind Blizzard's RealID. We see how well that worked.

As for the OP, I expect we'd see a lot more reports to RL authorities regarding real life threats made from in-game, if there were an easy way to locate and report accurate information to the relevant authorities.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide