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An Announcement Regarding Real Life Harassment

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#1821 - 2014-04-01 08:09:59 UTC
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:

All we need to do now is punish ripard teg by not voting for him in future csm elections, I don't want anyone crusading on my behalf, especially when his machinations are all centred on removing political opponents such as erotica1 who was about to stand as a csm candidate.


Erotica1 made two failed attempts at running for the CSM. The first he was shamed out of and the second he tried to skirt the rules (surprise).

I will vote for Ripard if the spitball I shoot at my monitor happens to stick to his name. The CSM and their little political machinations are not worth the time it takes to read their phony campaign platforms. Not one of them believes in anything but a free Icelandic vacation. I've never liked the concept and the reason it was created, but being raised with a politician as a father I will still vote on principal. And since a dart would break my monitor, I'll fire a nice big spitball and vote for who it sticks to.

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Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#1822 - 2014-04-01 08:19:21 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
You lost. HTFU and deal with it :)


That's a copout and you know it. Well? What is ripard hiding? He's obviously hiding something since he isn't talking? But then I hear that elected officials have no hidden agendas and aren't corrupt. Amirite?
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#1823 - 2014-04-01 08:22:04 UTC
Snupe Doggur wrote:
There's no legal precedent anywhere for everyone getting a second chance to commit every offense, not even for minors. I don't know why anyone would expect CCP to change their TOS in that manner. Some mud you drag CCP's name through is too muddy, and some offenders don't get second chances.


WRONG. Sokhar is getting a second chance. He spouted racial slurs and even threatened to KILL someone in real life yet he's walking away from this without a ban.

If there's not equal justice, there's NO justice. THAT is my problem with this fiasco.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#1824 - 2014-04-01 08:23:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
Asia Leigh wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
You lost. HTFU and deal with it :)


That's a copout and you know it. Well? What is ripard hiding? He's obviously hiding something since he isn't talking? But then I hear that elected officials have no hidden agendas and aren't corrupt. Amirite?


Or maybe he just said his piece and doesn't give a **** what anybody thinks about it.

As far as CCP and the CSM are concerned this was put to bed as this thread was started. It's over. Done. Finito. There is no need for any of them to comment anymore. The only people who haven't accepted that are...well you know who you are.

Mr Epeen Cool
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#1825 - 2014-04-01 08:24:07 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
Surprised people haven't started flying in circles around and shooting the Jita monument yet.
Salvos Rhoska
#1826 - 2014-04-01 08:24:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Asia Leigh wrote:
That's a copout and you know it. Well? What is ripard hiding? He's obviously hiding something since he isn't talking? But then I hear that elected officials have no hidden agendas and aren't corrupt. Amirite?


CSM have stated they are satisfied that Erotica1 received due process and consideration.
Their support of the released statement, is written into it.

:)

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Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#1827 - 2014-04-01 08:35:34 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
[The CSM and their little political machinations are not worth the time it takes to read their phony campaign platforms. Not one of them believes in anything but a free Icelandic vacation.

Mr Epeen Cool


Well will wonders never cease.... I'm actually gonna have to give you a +1 for that.

Cheers

\m/ O.o \m/

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#1828 - 2014-04-01 09:01:54 UTC
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:


Well will wonders never cease.... I'm actually gonna have to give you a +1 for that.

Cheers



Oh you crazy kids. We'll be on the same side of an issue probably more than not. For example Ranger 1 comes to mind. We've been hurling insults one month and then swearing our undying love for each other the next. For years.

Such is the ebb and flow of the EVE-O forums.

Mr Epeen Cool
Josef Djugashvilis
#1829 - 2014-04-01 09:18:12 UTC
JC Anderson wrote:
Surprised people haven't started flying in circles around and shooting the Jita monument yet.


Perhaps that is because the two or three people who feel that CCP acted unfairly with regard to Ero, are too busy filling the forums with tears to actually shoot the Jita monument Smile

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#1830 - 2014-04-01 09:18:27 UTC
JC Anderson wrote:
Surprised people haven't started flying in circles around and shooting the Jita monument yet.


That monument should have an expired equine on it

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Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#1831 - 2014-04-01 09:21:27 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
JC Anderson wrote:
Surprised people haven't started flying in circles around and shooting the Jita monument yet.


Perhaps that is because the two or three people who feel that CCP acted unfairly with regard to Ero, are too busy filling the forums with tears to actually shoot the Jita monument Smile


I don't feel that CCP acted unfairly with regard to Ero, I think they acted (by choosing NOT to act) unfairly with regard to Sohkar. Basically, the message CCP is sending the community is that it's perfectly acceptable to use racial slurs and even to threaten to MURDER someone IRL provided the target of your DEATH THREATS is either sufficiently unpopular or has been deemed to have sufficiently pissed you off, first. Either ban them both or ban neither.


\m/ O.o \m/

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arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#1832 - 2014-04-01 09:35:06 UTC
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
JC Anderson wrote:
Surprised people haven't started flying in circles around and shooting the Jita monument yet.


Perhaps that is because the two or three people who feel that CCP acted unfairly with regard to Ero, are too busy filling the forums with tears to actually shoot the Jita monument Smile


I don't feel that CCP acted unfairly with regard to Ero, I think they acted (by choosing NOT to act) unfairly with regard to Sohkar. Basically, the message CCP is sending the community is that it's perfectly acceptable to use racial slurs and even to threaten to MURDER someone IRL provided the target of your DEATH THREATS is either sufficiently unpopular or has been deemed to have sufficiently pissed you off, first. Either ban them both or ban neither.




Heard he is banned for 30days.

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Anni Hil-Ator
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#1833 - 2014-04-01 09:37:41 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:



That's your right and good luck to you, but it's down right silly to quit a game because some dude who wasn't you lost some virtual things to a trickster type then made a fool of himself trying to get his stuff back. No one died here (despite the threats) and the so called victim is cool with everything.

If this sort of thing gets to you then you decision to be a denizen of the internet in any form might be kind of suspect. Life is harsh.


Surely you understand that this isn't why PinkPanter is quitting. They're quitting due to a matter of principle related to freedom within the game and, on a related note, people being arbitrarily banned for vague reasons.

Someone correct me if I've gotten the names and motives mixed up in this thread... but I really don't think I have.
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#1834 - 2014-04-01 09:44:34 UTC
arabella blood wrote:
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
JC Anderson wrote:
Surprised people haven't started flying in circles around and shooting the Jita monument yet.


Perhaps that is because the two or three people who feel that CCP acted unfairly with regard to Ero, are too busy filling the forums with tears to actually shoot the Jita monument Smile


I don't feel that CCP acted unfairly with regard to Ero, I think they acted (by choosing NOT to act) unfairly with regard to Sohkar. Basically, the message CCP is sending the community is that it's perfectly acceptable to use racial slurs and even to threaten to MURDER someone IRL provided the target of your DEATH THREATS is either sufficiently unpopular or has been deemed to have sufficiently pissed you off, first. Either ban them both or ban neither.




Heard he is banned for 30days.


My understanding is that someone suggested a 30 day ban for him, and a poster that followed misunderstood and said "oh, so only a 30 day ban for sohkar but a perma ban for E1?" I'd like to know if I'm wrong about this.

CCP, I realize you have a policy of not discussing moderation and disciplinary action against players, but I honestly think you should make an exception to that rule in this case. Every little thing you do or don't do regarding this fiasco is sending a message to the community, and your messages need to be CLEAR. We need to know what IS and IS NOT acceptable.

You took 1 step in this direction by laying out that it is not acceptable to continue to pick at someone you've already pissed off (which I think is ridiculous, but hey, it's your game,) NOW you need to be clear on if it is or is not acceptable to issue real life death threats and racial slurs against someone if they have first broken the rules and picked on you or hurt your wee little feelings too much.

Where is THAT line drawn?

We need to know.

\m/ O.o \m/

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#1835 - 2014-04-01 09:53:31 UTC
Im being splattered in liquidised "lasagne" everytime I step into this thread

(wee joke there for UK listeners)

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#1836 - 2014-04-01 10:02:28 UTC
@Sabat: maybe you are right about the 30day ban :)

But what rules you talk about? Guidelines? Wtf? I want caos. I want you to fear about every action you take. Make it the ultimate eve expirience :p

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Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#1837 - 2014-04-01 10:10:03 UTC
arabella blood wrote:
@Sabat: maybe you are right about the 30day ban :)

But what rules you talk about? Guidelines? Wtf? I want caos. I want you to fear about every action you take. Make it the ultimate eve expirience :p


YES! I agree 100% It was the advertised lack of restrictions that first drew me to this game. I want it to be the Wild Wild West of outer space.

Sadly, CCP has shown that this is not what they're going to be providing for us. That being the case, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If E1 can get permabanned for violating the TOS by way of continuing to pick on someone even after that person has "reached the point of losing control over their emotions" (thats a direct quote from CCP Falcon) then goddamnit Sohkar should be banned for violating the TOS by way of using racial slurs AND MAKING RL DEATH THREATS against E1.

Honestly, I would think the racism and death threats would be more egregious an offense than super-trolling someone. I mean c'mon CCP, really? Roll


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Salvos Rhoska
#1838 - 2014-04-01 10:17:59 UTC
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:


CCP, I realize you have a policy of not discussing moderation and disciplinary action against players, but I honestly think you should make an exception to that rule in this case.


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Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#1839 - 2014-04-01 10:20:56 UTC
arabella blood wrote:
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
JC Anderson wrote:
Surprised people haven't started flying in circles around and shooting the Jita monument yet.


Perhaps that is because the two or three people who feel that CCP acted unfairly with regard to Ero, are too busy filling the forums with tears to actually shoot the Jita monument Smile


I don't feel that CCP acted unfairly with regard to Ero, I think they acted (by choosing NOT to act) unfairly with regard to Sohkar. Basically, the message CCP is sending the community is that it's perfectly acceptable to use racial slurs and even to threaten to MURDER someone IRL provided the target of your DEATH THREATS is either sufficiently unpopular or has been deemed to have sufficiently pissed you off, first. Either ban them both or ban neither.




Heard he is banned for 30days.


proof and source?
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#1840 - 2014-04-01 10:20:58 UTC
Ssabat Thraxx wrote:
arabella blood wrote:
@Sabat: maybe you are right about the 30day ban :)

But what rules you talk about? Guidelines? Wtf? I want caos. I want you to fear about every action you take. Make it the ultimate eve expirience :p


YES! I agree 100% It was the advertised lack of restrictions that first drew me to this game. I want it to be the Wild Wild West of outer space.

Sadly, CCP has shown that this is not what they're going to be providing for us. That being the case, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If E1 can get permabanned for violating the TOS by way of continuing to pick on someone even after that person has "reached the point of losing control over their emotions" (thats a direct quote from CCP Falcon) then goddamnit Sohkar should be banned for violating the TOS by way of using racial slurs AND MAKING RL DEATH THREATS against E1.

Honestly, I would think the racism and death threats would be more egregious an offense than super-trolling someone. I mean c'mon CCP, really? Roll




If we look at it from a pure law view. According to my country's laws Sohkar might be found guilty, but its almost 100% his sentence will be reduced.
Even from non law view, it would be seem fair. To me at least.
In my language there is a saying that tranlates to "a person in agony should not be judged" - it is 2000 years old.

But it might all boil down to this: did anyone even make a ticket about it?

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