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Need LOGI/PVP Support Advise
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Ryn Aldent
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-03-31 19:17:16 UTC
Hello fellow Capsuleers,

I have been running in a PVP fleet recently and tweeked my latest Exequror Cruiser LOGI fit. I would appreciate any feedback you may wish to convey. Please be kind as I am focusing my training to T2 logi support cruisers now but long way away from getting there 24ish days to go.

[Exequror, Syn's Justice 3]
Damage Control II
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste

Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 25
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Prototype ECCM Radar Sensor Cluster

Medium Remote Armor Repairer I
Medium Remote Armor Repairer I
Medium Remote Armor Repairer I

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II

Medium Armor Maintenance Bot I x5

Thanks in advance for your assistance
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-03-31 19:28:47 UTC
The rig are far far too expensive for a t1 ship and you don't need them
the meta 4 medium reppers are far better than the vanilla t1.
The deadspace medium reppers are better again if you can find some cheap (not worth it if they are more than a few mill).
The local repper is pointless if you are running with other logi. You don't have the cap or the PG for it.
If you are using a cap booster then load navy boosters and bigger ones
Can you really not target to the edge of your repper range without the sensor booster? If you can it serves no purpose and replace with a cap mod. Or at the very least change for a scan resolution script.

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God's Apples
Wilderness
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#3 - 2014-03-31 22:13:28 UTC
Your mids and lows are spot on for a solo logi. T2 ACR rigs cost individually as much as the rest of the fit assuming you fit c-type reps as well. I suggest modifying it to something like this:

[Exequror, Level 85 Priestmode (Solo)]
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Internal Force Field Array I
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Prototype ECCM Magnetometric Sensor Cluster

Corelum C-Type Medium Remote Armor Repairer
Corelum C-Type Medium Remote Armor Repairer
Medium 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

With genolution ca 1 and 2 or a 3% pg implant you can fit a third c-type rep.

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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#4 - 2014-04-01 10:50:59 UTC
If you are running solo logi then God's suggestion is really good. I don't understand why you got 3 t2 rigs. First of all you will be over on calibration so you can't fit 3 of them. Secondly you will only need t1 ones to make it fit so the t2 ones are waste of isk.

Most other things have already been pointed out, but i got a few things to add. First of all, make sure you fit the correct ECCM. There is 1 type for reach race. Radar = amarr, Ladar = minmatar, Magnetomtric = Gallente and Grav-something is for Caldari. If you don't fit the correct one then it is useless.

For drones I would recommend you to get a pair of warriors and a pair of ecm drones for the utility. Warriors can be used to clear ECM drones off you and kill tacklers while ECM drones can let you get your butt out if you get scrammed. Now this is personal preference, so if you prefer having RR drones for the extra repair power then it's perfectly fine.

Silvetica Dian wrote:

Can you really not target to the edge of your repper range without the sensor booster? If you can it serves no purpose and replace with a cap mod. Or at the very least change for a scan resolution script.


Ever heard of sensor damps? Roll

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Ryn Aldent
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-04-01 18:27:04 UTC
Thank you all for the replies, they are very useful will try the fits posted and will advise how they work for me.

Big smile
Ryn Aldent
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-04-03 13:45:52 UTC
Looks like this weekend will test the advise and fits recommended. I look forward to reporting either way so that others may learn from my experience Shocked
Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-04-03 15:02:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Voyager Arran
Definitely don't go crazy on fitting this thing. Being the only logi in a small gang makes you the obvious first primary, and no matter how hard you try at the end of the day the Exequror is still just a T1 cruiser and will die accordingly.

You might also want to look at an ASB Shield Fit; it has easier fittings, better cap, and a better active tank at the expense of your midslot utility (though you could transfer some of that to your spare lows), and if you're the only logi on field it doesn't really matter what your tank is.
Ryn Aldent
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-04-03 15:45:24 UTC
Voyager Arran wrote:
Definitely don't go crazy on fitting this thing. Being the only logi in a small gang makes you the obvious first primary, and no matter how hard you try at the end of the day the Exequror is still just a T1 cruiser and will die accordingly.

You might also want to look at an ASB Shield Fit; it has easier fittings, better cap, and a better active tank at the expense of your midslot utility (though you could transfer some of that to your spare lows), and if you're the only logi on field it doesn't really matter what your tank is.


ASB shield fit, so many acronyms to little time to learn them. Please let me know what this is. As my greatest strength is that I adapt to each situation, I try not to stagnate and lump my "fit-all' rule, as with EVE anything is possible

Thanks
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#9 - 2014-04-03 15:50:49 UTC
Basically, if you are flying a logistics ship, you most likely have another logistics pilot with you, which will be able to keep you alive. This then means, that those 2 logistics ships should be tanked in the same way as the rest of the fleet is.
Cause there's no point in having 2 Logis that rep shields, and are shieldtanked, when all your fleet has virtually no shield EHP.

However, if you are a SOLO logistics, the only thing you have to deal with is repping your fleet, and your very own tank can be either shield or armor.

In the example of a Solo Exequror, this would allow you to tank your own ship with a Shield Booster for example.
The most notable of the Shield Boosters is the Ancillary Shield Booster.
It does not use any capacitor as long as it's loaded with Capacitor Booster Charges.
Thus, it grants a lot of local tank at no capacitor cost at all, which is superior to pure-buffer armor when going alone.