Player Features and Ideas Discussion

@Tacomaco, what you should aim for is more difference between alpha(Volley) and dps, the tracking mechanic is pretty much the most balanced mechanic i know at any game!

Maybe is tweaking alpha/dps a new Way to go?

BUT BE AWARE!! Frigs should be a bit OP because its the most accessible class at the Game, if your suggsestion Break this feature you would harm Eve!

At first glance it would look like everyone would be flying battleships around. But there is always the risk of loosing an expensive ship and right now it's the problem that you can loose a 200mil ship to 2-3 frigates. After the change to the dmg adjustment you would risk loosing the Battleship but only to 2-3 cruiser equipped at least with medium weapons.

A large ship like a BS should be relative immune to attack from 2-3 frigates equipped to fight small ships. Their small weapons aren't designed to handle large targets the same way the large weapons aren't designed to attack small ones. Simple.

After this change the small specialized ships can be diversified even more. Right now there is a specialized small ship that can equip Large missiles. The stealth bombers.

Small ships equipped with large weapons should be able to destroy large ships as they do now. Even more, another destroyer variant can be added to the game, a gun ship that can quip Large turret weapons.

Something like a Catalyst version that get 99.65% reduction to large turret power needs the same way the stealth bomber gets for torpedo Launcher. If the ship fits only large weapons it can handle large targets but can't handle small ones.

Right weapon for right target. Except that now the small weapons are the right weapon for everything.

They already are. The entire problem here, is that you don't have a literal clue what you are talking about. You are piling assumptions on top of misunderstanding, and concluding that 2+2 = 163.

Small vs large is balanced by EHP and DPS.

A well-fit PVP battleship will do 800+ dps, and have 150,000 ehp, or about 80,000 ehp and an active tank of 500+ dps

A well-fit PVP frigate will do 150 dps, have 3000-5000 ehp, or an active tank of about 50 dps.

In 95/100 scenarios, the battleship won't be bothering to try to kill the frigate, it will ignore it. If it can't, then it will survive the attack so long it can either get aid, break the tackle, or kill/drive off the attack. My alt rats in a Geddon, and even fit for PVE has driven of 3-5 T2 PVP-fit frigates more than once.

Your whole argument is basically "isk tanking" - the concept that the cost of the ship should inherently relate to it's power and how effective it should be.
It took CCP a while, but when they realised there were 1500+ titans in the game, when they predicted a small handful based on price, they realised it was a flawed concept.

Eve is the most balanced game I can think of. Every pilot and every ship has a role to play and can perform it well enough to warrant being there. Compare that to other MMO's where there's months of grind to even meet the entry requirements, and it's balanced on gear, and you have a much worse situation.

You should be embracing the fact that as a new player you can be relevant to end-game content in week one, not wailing and crying like a baby that you can't pay-to-win.

FYI #2 - the majority of the most popular hulls for PVP are all battleships.

yeah - but that's nullsec doctrine fleets - I'll bet 100 isk!

So basically there have to be one more modifier to damage based on ratio of size cannon/launcher to size of target (not sig). Not bad idea actually.

Of course it's a good idea.

If you look at who's against it, you'll see it's only players with frigates don't want this. Take for example this Juan fan boy above( whenyou tell people to stop playing and gtfo, you are a fanboy). I looked at 3 pages of his kills, all the ships he lost are frigate and destroyer size. Why frigate, because that's where the exploits are...

They just love to exploit this imbalance in the combat system to go with rookie ships or 300k isk hulls after medium size or even large ships 50-100 times more expensive. This huge ISK imbalance must be addressed for small scale PvP.

Maybe this is balanced in large fleets but the day to day PvP is done in small combat of 2-4 ships. Outside the Eve community does anyone see this game as a PvP game? Of course not, it's see as some ganker paradise because of this PvP imbalance.

Even if CCP makes this dmg adjustment for weapon/target sizes it will take some time to wash the bad reputation Eve got because of thie PvP imbalance

There is no PVP imbalance between a BS and a frigate, the BS wins and can't be killed by a frigate if both are fit for PVP and flown by competent pilots. The frigate has no way to break the tank of a combat BS.

Your argument is based on a fallacy stemming from a lack of understanding of PVP.

out of the SB, the max frig i can come up with would be the dardevil and it does top a tad under 300 dps vith void, wich has a terribad range.

and since SB uses torpedoes, they do have BS like damage application, also engaging almost any other frig with a regular 400+dps SB will end only one way: your fit on a killboard

you, like OP, seems to lack game mechanics knowledge

1- the main drawback of frig weapons, when engagin BC / BS, is the range, meaning you will be in range of point/web (10km), and neut (med neut is around 12-15k, large is up to 30k)

2- bc and BS can defend themselves against frigs, using scram, web, neuts, and drones and many of those can cumulate several

3- nothing prevents you from fitting frig sized weapons on your BS, meaning you can hit those pesky bugger, out of the SB, the opposite is not true for the frig.

now, if you manage to get your bs killed by frigs, even 2-3 of them, i kindly suggest the following:

1- stop whining
2- REALLY stop whining
3- learn fitting 101
4- learn game mechanics
5- once done, come back to this threads, and realise how dumb you were back then, and pray that your post stay burried