Player Features and Ideas Discussion

it's nearly to pass months but price of SOE faction ships still the same du to drop rate of Chip really too low.

Looks like Rise has failed twice with this ship. First with the lack luster design of the ship (no cloak or jump drive) and second with his attempt to reduce the cost of the ship.

Just add a covert cloak ability which would justify the current high price and make the ship desirable to more that a handful of people.

Given it's niche role and the fact that other ships can do its job better, I don't think it is that much more valuable that a standard T1 battle ship. Our corp guardians cost around 400 mill and that's probably as much as i would be willing to pay for the nestor.

However if it had a cover cloak, i would be willing to pay 1-1.5 billion so that our corporation had some cloaky logi for special situations.

This would be worth 20 billion isk.

that would be a pretty good reason to have 1 or 2 of those in wh space ;]

price more than carier and Marauder and nearly Dread but it's current state it's can shine if CCP need the price as it this state CCP should Buff it's more.

All the Nestor needs to make it worth its current price is;
2000m fleet hanger
Fitting service - Wh, low and nul use only
Blops cloak bonus (not covert cloak)
Ability to jump as a part of Blops gang (no jump portal)

Remove turret slots, reduce highs to 6, reduce mids to 5, increase lows to 7

Bonuses; Per Level
Gallente Battleship.
7.5% Drone Damage and hitpoints

Amarr Battleship;
4% Armour Resists

Logistics Bonuses; Per Level
100% Remote Armour Repair Range
10% Remote Armour Repair Amount
125% Bonus to ship maximum velocity when using cloak

Role Bonuses;
50% Reduction activation cost Armour Repair
50% To Core and Combat scanner probe strength
10% To Relic and Data Analyzer virus strength

You honestly don't think a combat capable Logistics Battleship that has refit service and can jump with blops would not find a role?

NB; The only reason I left the Relic and Data Analyzer bonuses was so it could at least look like it fitted its intended role as a Scanning Battleship.

Adding covert cloak and increasing PG you then have a very OP combat logistics battleship.

CCP learnt from the Stratios (DPS nerfed before release - 5 drones to 4) and so the Nestor could never live up to player expectations as a "Combat Battleship" it was designed is as.

Unfortunately the Nestor currently has no role.

Way too expensive for exploration - and who wants to do exploration in a battleship without a cloak. Flying solo gate to gate in a battleship (especially 1 that costly) is just suicide. Even with an Astero and Stratios scouting, your gonna die at the 1st gate camp.
It can't fill a logistics role well - not enough range on the remote reppers - and again WAY too expensive
Can't fit the "biggest guns" so not really suitable for a combat role (according to some)
But if it gets a covert cloak and an extra - what, 3000 PG do you? It will suddenly be worth 1.6bil isk?

I'd like to hear your logic behind it needing more PG and a covert cloak, I would bet it has nothing at all to do with exploration (SOE ship theme and role) and has everything to do with - biggest guns for pvp
btw the difference between mega pulse and dual heavy pulse with Conflag is 33dps
tachyons require 6000 extra pg,mega beams 4,500 extra pg, so how muc extra PG does it need? Dual Heavy Beams, Dual Heavy Pulse, no extra PG

You want unified ship lines - you are stuck with the Nestor as it is - it fits with the roles of the other 2 SOE ships
The Nestor isn't a combat battleship, SOE designed it as a Support battleship for Stratios and Astero for exploration.

You don't want the Nestor to fit in with the SOE ship theme - You want the Nestor to be a covert battleship so you can use it for PVP.

If we are to have a "support battleship" why not in the guise of a mini carrier, it fits with the role SOE designed it for and is not OP. It is also useful in PVP, can cloak, 600+ DPS from Sentries and can apply full armor logistics.

And the covert cloak is so it'd be usable in wormholes more easily, without giving away whoever else it was flying with.

Another suggestion to make it usable in wormholes:

"Drones controlled by this ship will not be targeted by sleeper drones", the same way they don't attack the zephyr- it'd make it fun and usable against sleepers.