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An Announcement Regarding Real Life Harassment

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Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#1581 - 2014-03-29 21:36:37 UTC
Andski wrote:
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
CCP always deleted threads that showed GM communication. Or force-deleted bios that included links to GM communication.


Yes, because they do not want their double standards and inconsistent enforcement being put under the spotlight.


Any idea when TMC is going to make a comment on this situation?

Sorry - I meant publish an article.

Aaaaaaand relax.
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#1582 - 2014-03-29 21:40:03 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
...
Yes, if I was the catalyst that caused someone to kill people, I'd feel a bit guilty. But if that catalyst is causing the person to lose internet spaceship in a game that is literally about losing, killing, and taking internet spaceships, how is that my FAULT?

What about when someone kills themselves because they went AFK and their mission navy raven died in a mission? Whose fault is it then?


This post has problems I can't begin to describe or explain without writing an essay I just don't have time to write.
Admits to feeling a bit guilty if instigating a murder, asks about blame placement when someone lacks perspective. The difference is when you are involved you are responsible.
A bit guilty huh? BRA. VO.






Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Regan Rotineque
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1583 - 2014-03-29 21:40:33 UTC
MajorBean wrote:
With that ban our loved sandbox lost alot of sand, Erotica 1 you will be remembered.







Only the sand the cat shat on already
Tor Norman
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1584 - 2014-03-29 21:42:26 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
Jayem See wrote:


That response was almost as late as the minutes! Good job!


I was out for a while in this thing called the real world.

Over rated.

Actually I am trying to get out of here but I have so much time invested I keep feeling like I am drawn back in involuntarily.

m

You should petition him for harassment.

I talk about EVE trading and general space violence in my blog.

For the ISK and the yarr!
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#1585 - 2014-03-29 21:55:25 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
What I find most vile in all of this is Ripard Tegs underhanded approach to it all.

If you don't like Erotica1 and what she did, fair enough. But to abuse his privileged position to push for an individual user to be banned, and then to write a highly inflammatory piece - one which resorts to hysterics and evocations of literal torture - and spreading it around news media when CCP didn't agree with him... that's just revolting on so many levels.

ban ripard teg


+1

Politicians eh.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#1586 - 2014-03-29 21:57:52 UTC
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
What I find most vile in all of this is Ripard Tegs underhanded approach to it all.

If you don't like Erotica1 and what she did, fair enough. But to abuse his privileged position to push for an individual user to be banned, and then to write a highly inflammatory piece - one which resorts to hysterics and evocations of literal torture - and spreading it around news media when CCP didn't agree with him... that's just revolting on so many levels.

ban ripard teg


+1

Politicians eh.


-1

People with nothing to add eh.

Aaaaaaand relax.
Liese Shardani
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1587 - 2014-03-29 21:59:42 UTC
Drone 16 wrote:
Sig: It puts the peanutbutter on itself or it leaves the bonus round... - E1's greatest Hits
Your sig made me LOL, but it also does sorta capture the vibe of those sessions.

Erotica's defenders keep deflecting and misdirecting, trying to take the focus off what so many of us have objected to from the get-go. The Bonus Round is set up to torment and humiliate its victims. No amount of HTFU would make me want to appear even close to the same side as a guy who uses a game to lure victims into a private chat room for hours of psychological torment.

Who's got time to hang around in Jita Local that long and then spend hours in TS with some guy singing off-key with steak and mayo in his mouth? Don't they have other stuff they could be doing in the game (not to mention RL) to make money and have fun?

I wonder how many of these Bonus Room "emergent gameplay" advocates have resorted to it because they have little aptitude for the actual game and are disinclined to improve their skills.

I seem to recall Ero saying the other night on the stream that he was unsuccessful at making ISK the normal way when he first started EVE, so he resorted to going from station to station begging, using a fake killmail and sob story to scam ISK.
Tor Norman
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1588 - 2014-03-29 22:01:22 UTC
Seemed to work well for him.

I talk about EVE trading and general space violence in my blog.

For the ISK and the yarr!
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#1589 - 2014-03-29 22:11:52 UTC
Tor Norman wrote:
Seemed to work well for him.


Kinda depends on how you look at it. Given that with a little less unpleasantness he could have been running for CSM right now.

Maybe not. Certainly a skilled player though, just missed out by taking it too far.

Aaaaaaand relax.
Liese Shardani
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1590 - 2014-03-29 22:12:14 UTC
Tor Norman wrote:
Seemed to work well for him.
I'd like to convince more of my coworkers and friends to try EVE, but if I had to answer the question of "Well, what do you DO in EVE?" with tales of begging in Jita and luring people to the glorious Bonus Round, not only would they not want to try the game but they'd also think I was not someone they want to be around.

I continue to be amazed that anyone's willing to defend the practice.
H aVo K
Tycheon Industries
#1591 - 2014-03-29 22:12:49 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
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Tell you what.

Write up your questions, and address them to CCP directly.

You are asking people who try to answer them, but are not actually in any position to do so.
Hence, everything they answer, is just their opinion.

Write em up and address them to CCP.


Nope.

If anything, this little episode (and the "walking in station" riots, and the Mittens witch-hunt after his drunken ramblings) has demonstrated that the only way to get any sort of answer/reaction from CCP is through rallying the masses to your cause.


.... which really really really makes sense when you think about the nature of the meta game.
Bael Malefic
Doomheim
#1592 - 2014-03-29 22:19:04 UTC
Liese Shardani wrote:
Tor Norman wrote:
Seemed to work well for him.
I'd like to convince more of my coworkers and friends to try EVE, but if I had to answer the question of "Well, what do you DO in EVE?" with tales of begging in Jita and luring people to the glorious Bonus Round, not only would they not want to try the game but they'd also think I was not someone they want to be around.

I continue to be amazed that anyone's willing to defend the practice.


There are plenty of basement dwelling social misfits and closet sociopaths who will defend it.
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#1593 - 2014-03-29 22:25:36 UTC
Bael Malefic wrote:
Liese Shardani wrote:
Tor Norman wrote:
Seemed to work well for him.
I'd like to convince more of my coworkers and friends to try EVE, but if I had to answer the question of "Well, what do you DO in EVE?" with tales of begging in Jita and luring people to the glorious Bonus Round, not only would they not want to try the game but they'd also think I was not someone they want to be around.

I continue to be amazed that anyone's willing to defend the practice.


There are plenty of basement dwelling social misfits and closet sociopaths who will defend it.


There are also so many groups of people who don't play that way that I would encourage anyone to try it. It is what you make it. When I go to Jita I shut my local window when in station (apart from a couple of minutes to work out the latest scams)

Most of my game involves none of this stuff - it's just spaceships and explosions. Don't be too sensitive about it - in context don't take it too far either.

Aaaaaaand relax.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#1594 - 2014-03-29 22:27:32 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
I did not call anyone stupid


I, for one, wouldn't hold it against you if you did.

Mr Epeen Cool
Liese Shardani
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1595 - 2014-03-29 22:32:55 UTC
Jayem See wrote:
There are also so many groups of people who don't play that way that I would encourage anyone to try it. It is what you make it. When I go to Jita I shut my local window when in station (apart from a couple of minutes to work out the latest scams)

Most of my game involves none of this stuff - it's just spaceships and explosions. Don't be too sensitive about it - in context don't take it too far either.
Yeah, the corps and alliances I've been involved with are the reason I continue to play. If I were going to make a more serious effort to recruit coworkers, I'd make a point of hosting sessions where they could ask for help and we could all do cool stuff together. The new player experience still leaves much to be desired, particularly if you don't know anybody else who plays.
voetius
Grundrisse
#1596 - 2014-03-29 22:39:28 UTC

I have to admit that now the question has been asked it's a bit puzzling why there has been no article on TMC.

I find it a bit hard to credit that they think the goat simulator is more important, even if it has a certain novelty value.
Liese Shardani
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1597 - 2014-03-29 22:42:55 UTC
voetius wrote:
I have to admit that now the question has been asked it's a bit puzzling why there has been no article on TMC.

I find it a bit hard to credit that they think the goat simulator is more important, even if it has a certain novelty value.
Maybe they'd be late enough getting in on it that they don't want to be seen as riding others' coattails? Or as being second fiddle to Ripard?
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#1598 - 2014-03-29 22:44:35 UTC
voetius wrote:

I have to admit that now the question has been asked it's a bit puzzling why there has been no article on TMC.

I find it a bit hard to credit that they think the goat simulator is more important, even if it has a certain novelty value.


It's TMC. They're still holding their collective finger to the wind before they figure out the slant to put on it. They have to stay popular, you know.

Mr Epeen Cool
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#1599 - 2014-03-29 22:44:42 UTC
voetius wrote:

I have to admit that now the question has been asked it's a bit puzzling why there has been no article on TMC.

I find it a bit hard to credit that they think the goat simulator is more important, even if it has a certain novelty value.


I want that goat simulator. That video was outstanding.

Aaaaaaand relax.
Percy UK
Ironforge Commerce Guild
#1600 - 2014-03-29 22:47:31 UTC
Thanks for the update and keep up the good work.