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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#121 - 2014-03-29 19:27:12 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
2

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Ranamar
Nobody in Local
Deepwater Hooligans
#122 - 2014-03-29 19:41:41 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
I agree with the people who say that option #1 is going to inevitably result in a clampdown so tight that EVE will lose a lot of its current character, and it probably won't stop the griefplay-oriented people anyway, because clearly defined rules make it easier to dance up to the edges of them and needle someone in ways they can't do anything about. Well, or there's an alternative scenario to case #1 that's worse: people don't petition things for fear of looking like a snitch, and then everyone is surprised when something is reported and someone gets banned over it.

So, clearly, the only viable option is #2. However, it comes with some specific conditions, in my opinion. First, things being a reportable offense needs to not be a surprise. Furthermore, because of the metagame and the number of third-party tools we use, actions where people are identifying themselves with their EVE handles should be considered within the purview of action by CCP. Finally, and I know I'm going to offend some people with this one, people need to be encouraged to report things they found offensive.


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Jennifer en Marland
Shiny Violent Killing Toys
Astral Battles
#123 - 2014-03-29 19:43:59 UTC
#2 please.

I think CCP should avoid strict definitions of harassment/abuse, so they have the freedom to use their judgement in deciding whether a specific case requires action. This probably means there will be more cases like the current Erotica1 controversy, where CCP takes action even though it doesn't seem to be explicitly required by cast-iron rules, and there are players who disagree with CCP's decision. I don't think thats a problem though.

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#124 - 2014-03-29 19:47:59 UTC
Option 2 Bear

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Kaylin Drake
Profound Destiny
#125 - 2014-03-29 20:00:40 UTC
Eve in unique in so many ways compared to other MMO's, thus the "industry standard" isn't really Eve's standard.

2.
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#126 - 2014-03-29 20:02:38 UTC
(2) CCP should continue with the status quo, and trust the members of the EVE community to have the adult intelligence and humanity to exercise discretion in how far they can take their communication with other players. And having exercised that discretion, to also be aware that we're all members of the game community and that while every kind of in-game space-villainy is legitimate, we're all actual human beings behind the screen and we should be careful with our out of game actions to each other. This option is, so far as I am aware, unique to CCP and EVE; if other MMOs place this level of trust and faith in their players I am unaware of them.
Stacy Knox
Nuclear-Blast
#127 - 2014-03-29 20:23:39 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Hello Malcanis

Here is my oppinion:

as many people have stated in previous posts " in a perfect world, i would choose number 2"

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Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
#128 - 2014-03-29 20:36:13 UTC
2, 3 is for psychos and 1 is for wow players
Bandit 42
Halcyon Dayz
#129 - 2014-03-29 20:52:21 UTC
2
NeoShocker
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#130 - 2014-03-29 21:08:05 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Ideally, for me, the option is 3. It is what truly defines Eve. But in the end, I choose 2. There are loopholes where people can get around and do something... that is wrong where there is no defined line. People should really already know appropriate judgements, when to stop. It all ties down to morals. We all have different sets of morals, which is why the line is probably very difficult to determine.

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Lady Zarrina
New Eden Browncoats
#131 - 2014-03-29 21:41:57 UTC
2) Just seems to make the most sense. I have not followed this latest scandal, but one can never outline every scenario of when a line is crossed. And outright hateful actions and talk have no place in a game for the general public.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#132 - 2014-03-29 21:46:35 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Option 2 would be the best option.

If CCP has to clearly define harassment or other "illegal" activities, then the "griefer community" will do everything they can to circumvent it.


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Regan Rotineque
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#133 - 2014-03-29 21:53:30 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
2 please

I find the fact that some are unable to differentiate between in game play that is good natured ganking and scamming and that which is sadistic to be rather disturbing.

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Goa Chai
Doomheim
#134 - 2014-03-29 22:13:27 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
I would say 3... one of the things that makes this game what it is and part of the challenge of it is adapting to the potentially hostile actions of other players, which can sometimes be very extreme, and accepting that one's response towards such actions is what makes the sandbox what it is, to place limitations on that reduces the "wild west" vibe that EVE for better or worse is known for.

Part of EVE is learning to ADAPT to the actions of others, actions which at times can be very negative, the idea that people should be able to somehow be exempt from that just because they don't want someone coming along and pissing on their sand castle, then rubbing the sand in their face when they cry about it instead of being smart enough to figure out a way to make them eat that sand, imo goes against the very foundation of the EVE experience.

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Prt Scr
569th Freelancers
#135 - 2014-03-29 22:20:55 UTC
2,are options 1 & 3 just to troll us?

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Machagon
Amamake Anarchist Community College
#136 - 2014-03-29 23:17:37 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
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Kytayn
Kronos TEchnologies
#137 - 2014-03-29 23:23:18 UTC
Option The Second

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Lucretia DeWinter
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#138 - 2014-03-29 23:30:42 UTC
2
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#139 - 2014-03-30 00:00:11 UTC
The answer is 2 or this community would turn into a shitfest.

Aaaaaaand relax.

Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#140 - 2014-03-30 00:02:36 UTC
My vote is for 1. Don't like to see harassment in this game at all.