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An Announcement Regarding Real Life Harassment

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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#1181 - 2014-03-29 03:47:07 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Awaiting Ripard Tegs comments.


Prolly playing the coward. We'll never hear anything from him.

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1182 - 2014-03-29 03:47:26 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Awaiting Ripard Tegs comments.


Pretty sure the only thing we'll hear from him is some Mittens-level Smug, and then he'll duck the issue.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Jelani Akinyemi Affonso
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1183 - 2014-03-29 03:49:10 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Jelani Akinyemi Affonso wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
EVE Radio is quite interesting tonight.

Ripard Teg Refuses to go on the show with Erotica and Sohkar to discuss this. I wonder why?


Because cowards like him can't do anything but hide behind their blog to sling mud.

Meanwhile, legitimate real life threats like are being made against Remiel Pollard are being ignored. Disgusting.

Ripard Teg should be ashamed of who he is. His alliance should be ashamed to have him.

And I'm ashamed to play the same game.



now now now, let's be sensible.
aren't you overreacting?

Next you gnna quit too...Roll

well plz send some stuff my way..

Thanks in advance!


If I quit, you lot win.

Instead, I'll take the Feyd route. Kill, maim, and harvest tears at an accelerated pace.



I'm shedding a tear for you rite now bro...
Big smileBig smile
Mario Putzo
#1184 - 2014-03-29 04:07:19 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Awaiting Ripard Tegs comments.


Pretty sure the only thing we'll hear from him is some Mittens-level Smug, and then he'll duck the issue.


Sad but true, sad but true.
Kethry Avenger
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1185 - 2014-03-29 04:26:02 UTC
This conversation has clearly reached a conclusion. This thread has stopped growing at a rate that is almost impossible to keep up with.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#1186 - 2014-03-29 04:32:24 UTC
Kethry Avenger wrote:
This conversation has clearly reached a conclusion. This thread has stopped growing at a rate that is almost impossible to keep up with.


sad

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1187 - 2014-03-29 05:22:49 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You have been, and continue to equate pixels with real life activity.

If it's just pixels, then give me all of your pixels. If you won't then clearly they aren't "just pixels".

Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Moreso when the closest analogy to what you just said "Sing or you die", is PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE in this game, with plenty of precedent of that happening.

Look, you played, you lost. CCP 1 You 0. Be gracious in defeat friend.


What are you talking about? People have ransomed developers on live streams for a song, and they never got banned.

That's what I'm trying to say. All you people saying "If you put a gun to their heads" are ignoring everything but whatever emotion is driving you forward.

I don't particularly care about E1. I just happen to really dislike the precedent this sets, where you can get someone banned by getting a big enough of a fuss started.



Yeah, and PRETEND this **** wont happen lol


Wonder if we can get allianced banned if we get enough ppl together that they harassed us or touched us in bad places? Like the Goons are harassing all of High sec. We should get them banned XD


They can try soon. Seems some white knighting scumbags from high sec need a lesson and not only are we at peace but there is also the first holicay season coming up...
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#1188 - 2014-03-29 05:42:49 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
scumbags from high sec


If there's one thing in this game that I can always count on, it's you managing to squeeze that into anything you post. Relevant or not.

You are my rock, Baltec.

Mr Epeen Cool
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#1189 - 2014-03-29 05:50:03 UTC
Jagoff Haverford wrote:
Gotta be honest. I can't tell what the hell this "announcement" is saying. Sure, harassment in "real life" is a bad thing. But I can't even tell, after reading this masterpiece of double-speak, if the Erotica 1/Sokhar incident is or is not considered harassment in "real life".


Every aspiring dictator and psychopath knows that you can't run an empire with hard and fast rules. You speak of generalities guidelines, and you maintain your position of power by being the only one with the authority to correctly interpret the guidelines in any particular scenario. Once you start laying down rules and drawing lines which people must not cross, you open yourself up to the boundary-pushers: the people who will intentionally cross lines in meaningless ways in order to challenge your authority.

So to maintain your authority and the absoluteness of your rule, you must necessarily be violent and arbitrary in the interpretation of the guidelines and the enforcement of your decisions. Otherwise you simply lose the respect of the people who have volunteered to be ruled by you.

Thus the statement from CCP is deliberately vague: the people who are clearly "over the line" know they're over the line and expect punishment, the people who are clearly "inside the line" know they're inside and are safe from punishment, while the people in the grey area will either retreat to safety or double down. Once that happens, the enforcers can prune off the people who doubled-down because they're clearly evil, rotten apples and the community is obviously better off without them around.

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Helena Russell Makanen
DRRUSSEL
#1190 - 2014-03-29 05:58:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Helena Russell Makanen
Mara Rinn wrote:
Jagoff Haverford wrote:
Gotta be honest. I can't tell what the hell this "announcement" is saying. Sure, harassment in "real life" is a bad thing. But I can't even tell, after reading this masterpiece of double-speak, if the Erotica 1/Sokhar incident is or is not considered harassment in "real life".


Every aspiring dictator and psychopath knows that you can't run an empire with hard and fast rules. You speak of generalities guidelines, and you maintain your position of power by being the only one with the authority to correctly interpret the guidelines in any particular scenario. Once you start laying down rules and drawing lines which people must not cross, you open yourself up to the boundary-pushers: the people who will intentionally cross lines in meaningless ways in order to challenge your authority.

So to maintain your authority and the absoluteness of your rule, you must necessarily be violent and arbitrary in the interpretation of the guidelines and the enforcement of your decisions. Otherwise you simply lose the respect of the people who have volunteered to be ruled by you.

Thus the statement from CCP is deliberately vague: the people who are clearly "over the line" know they're over the line and expect punishment, the people who are clearly "inside the line" know they're inside and are safe from punishment, while the people in the grey area will either retreat to safety or double down. Once that happens, the enforcers can prune off the people who doubled-down because they're clearly evil, rotten apples and the community is obviously better off without them around.



Well said Mara... it's almost funny how when things don't go their way, they start dancing on the head of a pin trying to justify painfully obvious wrongs. Not sure why. Inability to admit they simply are wrong??? Kind of scary in a way. Glad to see CCP gets it despite their angst to justify anything.

"If a miner needs to go to the bathroom, for instance, I ask that they dock up first, or at the very least ask the Supreme Protector for permission to go."  -  James 315 - aka - the miner bumper

Helena Russell Makanen
DRRUSSEL
#1191 - 2014-03-29 06:00:23 UTC
baltec1 wrote:


They can try soon. Seems some white knighting scumbags from high sec need a lesson and not only are we at peace but there is also the first holicay season coming up...


I think the word you were looking for is 'Holiday'... not holicay.

"If a miner needs to go to the bathroom, for instance, I ask that they dock up first, or at the very least ask the Supreme Protector for permission to go."  -  James 315 - aka - the miner bumper

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#1192 - 2014-03-29 06:11:44 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Thus the statement from CCP is deliberately vague: the people who are clearly "over the line" know they're over the line and expect punishment, the people who are clearly "inside the line" know they're inside and are safe from punishment, while the people in the grey area will either retreat to safety or double down. Once that happens, the enforcers can prune off the people who doubled-down because they're clearly evil, rotten apples and the community is obviously better off without them around.

Nothing has changed as far as I'm concerned. The EULA is exactly the same as it was before, so unless anyone knows the exact reason for Erotica's ban, I think it's too early to start talking about imaginary lines that now exist where they didn't before.

Oh god.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1193 - 2014-03-29 06:18:24 UTC
Helena Russell Makanen wrote:


Well said Mara... it's almost funny how when things don't go their way, they start dancing on the head of a pin trying to justify painfully obvious wrongs. Not sure why. Inability to admit they simply are wrong??? Kind of scary in a way. Glad to see CCP gets it despite their angst to justify anything.


Compared to what you people were doing? Screeching and yowling for the head of someone who had broken no rules in game?

At least none of us are spewing irl threats and racism, like so many in your camp of despicable excuses for human beings.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Triturus Alpestris
Bad Taste.
#1194 - 2014-03-29 06:35:09 UTC
I dont want to read all this, but is there some petition I can sign and support Erotica 1?
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#1195 - 2014-03-29 06:39:45 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Helena Russell Makanen wrote:


Well said Mara... it's almost funny how when things don't go their way, they start dancing on the head of a pin trying to justify painfully obvious wrongs. Not sure why. Inability to admit they simply are wrong??? Kind of scary in a way. Glad to see CCP gets it despite their angst to justify anything.


Compared to what you people were doing? Screeching and yowling for the head of someone who had broken no rules in game?

At least none of us are spewing irl threats and racism, like so many in your camp of despicable excuses for human beings.


I'm detecting some serious mad™ going on right here.

Mr Epeen Cool
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#1196 - 2014-03-29 06:47:02 UTC
TIL You can get banned from EVE if enough people don't like you.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Josef Djugashvilis
#1197 - 2014-03-29 06:57:03 UTC
MajorBean wrote:
With that ban our loved sandbox lost alot of sand, Erotica 1 you will be remembered.







Some will consider that a bit of poop has been removed from the sand.Smile

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#1198 - 2014-03-29 07:00:24 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Some will consider that a bit of poop has been removed from the sand.Smile

Some are now viewing the CSM as the bit of poop in the sand.

Oh god.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#1199 - 2014-03-29 07:02:57 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Some will consider that a bit of poop has been removed from the sand.Smile

Some are now viewing the CSM as the bit of poop in the sand.


Some of us always have. Can't say I'd be disappointed if they ended that failed experiment. But that's a topic for another day.

Mr Epeen Cool
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#1200 - 2014-03-29 07:04:05 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Some will consider that a bit of poop has been removed from the sand.Smile

Some are now viewing the CSM as the bit of poop in the sand.


Some of us always have. Can't say I'd be disappointed if they ended that failed experiment. But that's a topic for another day.

Mr Epeen Cool

At least we're in agreement on that point.

Oh god.