These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

An Announcement Regarding Real Life Harassment

First post First post First post
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#1161 - 2014-03-29 02:50:15 UTC
dexington wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
I couldn't figure out how a person who participated willingly at every step of the process could be "harassed."


Lets say i put a gun to someones head, and tell him unless he sings me a song i'll shoot him, if he starts singing did he then do it of his own free will?. He had two choices, he could sing or he could die. Most people would say i forced him, i guess you would says he just wanted to sing more then he wanted to die, and acted of his own free will.

If you are keeping all of someones in-game assets hostage, which he may have spend years gathering, it's probably not hard to make someone do all sorts of things willingly.
He gave over the assets willingly too, so start to finish it was all his choice. This is not in dispute as the "victim" himself has confirmed this in no uncertain terms.

And if your in game assets are worth so much to you that you are willing to do things that make you uncomfortable out of game, you have serious problems.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#1162 - 2014-03-29 02:51:31 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You have been, and continue to equate pixels with real life activity.

If it's just pixels, then give me all of your pixels. If you won't then clearly they aren't "just pixels".

Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Moreso when the closest analogy to what you just said "Sing or you die", is PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE in this game, with plenty of precedent of that happening.

Look, you played, you lost. CCP 1 You 0. Be gracious in defeat friend.

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1163 - 2014-03-29 02:51:36 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
I get it!!!


No you don't... and you are not even close.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Klyith
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1164 - 2014-03-29 02:56:09 UTC
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:

If it's just pixels, then give me all of your pixels. If you won't then clearly they aren't "just pixels".

Sure thing. Come to my TS and sing me some songs.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#1165 - 2014-03-29 02:56:31 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
dexington wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
I couldn't figure out how a person who participated willingly at every step of the process could be "harassed."


Lets say i put a gun to someones head, and tell him unless he sings me a song i'll shoot him, if he starts singing did he then do it of his own free will?. He had two choices, he could sing or he could die. Most people would say i forced him, i guess you would says he just wanted to sing more then he wanted to die, and acted of his own free will.

If you are keeping all of someones in-game assets hostage, which he may have spend years gathering, it's probably not hard to make someone do all sorts of things willingly.
He gave over the assets willingly too, so start to finish it was all his choice. This is not in dispute as the "victim" himself has confirmed this in no uncertain terms.

And if your in game assets are worth so much to you that you are willing to do things that make you uncomfortable out of game, you have serious problems.


Better yet are the ppl who keep throwing the word freedom around to condemn this not like they even realize that the victim's freedom was never taken lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1166 - 2014-03-29 02:57:04 UTC
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You have been, and continue to equate pixels with real life activity.

If it's just pixels, then give me all of your pixels. If you won't then clearly they aren't "just pixels".

Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Moreso when the closest analogy to what you just said "Sing or you die", is PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE in this game, with plenty of precedent of that happening.

Look, you played, you lost. CCP 1 You 0. Be gracious in defeat friend.


What are you talking about? People have ransomed developers on live streams for a song, and they never got banned.

That's what I'm trying to say. All you people saying "If you put a gun to their heads" are ignoring everything but whatever emotion is driving you forward.

I don't particularly care about E1. I just happen to really dislike the precedent this sets, where you can get someone banned by getting a big enough of a fuss started.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#1167 - 2014-03-29 02:57:39 UTC
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You have been, and continue to equate pixels with real life activity.

If it's just pixels, then give me all of your pixels. If you won't then clearly they aren't "just pixels".

Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Moreso when the closest analogy to what you just said "Sing or you die", is PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE in this game, with plenty of precedent of that happening.

Look, you played, you lost. CCP 1 You 0. Be gracious in defeat friend.


sure lemme log in

Oh wait, Im an alt, I dont have any


You can pretend I gave them though.

Here, get some peanut butter....

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#1168 - 2014-03-29 02:59:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You have been, and continue to equate pixels with real life activity.

If it's just pixels, then give me all of your pixels. If you won't then clearly they aren't "just pixels".

Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Moreso when the closest analogy to what you just said "Sing or you die", is PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE in this game, with plenty of precedent of that happening.

Look, you played, you lost. CCP 1 You 0. Be gracious in defeat friend.


What are you talking about? People have ransomed developers on live streams for a song, and they never got banned.

That's what I'm trying to say. All you people saying "If you put a gun to their heads" are ignoring everything but whatever emotion is driving you forward.

I don't particularly care about E1. I just happen to really dislike the precedent this sets, where you can get someone banned by getting a big enough of a fuss started.



Yeah, and PRETEND this **** wont happen lol


Wonder if we can get allianced banned if we get enough ppl together that they harassed us or touched us in bad places? Like the Goons are harassing all of High sec. We should get them banned XD

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1169 - 2014-03-29 03:07:10 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:


Yeah, and PRETEND this **** wont happen lol


Wonder if we can get allianced banned if we get enough ppl together that they harassed us or touched us in bad places? Like the Goons are harassing all of High sec. We should get them banned XD


You should read Remiel's post on the matter, before it gets deleted.

Pretty clear at this point that there are no rules, it's just being made up and enforced arbitrarily.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#1170 - 2014-03-29 03:09:54 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:


Yeah, and PRETEND this **** wont happen lol


Wonder if we can get allianced banned if we get enough ppl together that they harassed us or touched us in bad places? Like the Goons are harassing all of High sec. We should get them banned XD


You should read Remiel's post on the matter, before it gets deleted.

Pretty clear at this point that there are no rules, it's just being made up and enforced arbitrarily.


I think THATS pretty clear without reading a pot that says that lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1171 - 2014-03-29 03:14:04 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:


Yeah, and PRETEND this **** wont happen lol


Wonder if we can get allianced banned if we get enough ppl together that they harassed us or touched us in bad places? Like the Goons are harassing all of High sec. We should get them banned XD


You should read Remiel's post on the matter, before it gets deleted.

Pretty clear at this point that there are no rules, it's just being made up and enforced arbitrarily.


I think THATS pretty clear without reading a pot that says that lol


Oh yes, but the point is that he actually got dox'ed, and a GM told him straight up that any third party cannot be taken into consideration.

Meanwhile, this thread.

Double standards much?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Mario Putzo
#1172 - 2014-03-29 03:20:25 UTC
EVE Radio is quite interesting tonight.

Ripard Teg Refuses to go on the show with Erotica and Sohkar to discuss this. I wonder why?
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#1173 - 2014-03-29 03:23:52 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
EVE Radio is quite interesting tonight.

Ripard Teg Refuses to go on the show with Erotica and Sohkar to discuss this. I wonder why?


lol GEE thats a surprise. I wouldnt either were I him lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Tyrant Scorn
#1174 - 2014-03-29 03:24:50 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1175 - 2014-03-29 03:26:01 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
EVE Radio is quite interesting tonight.

Ripard Teg Refuses to go on the show with Erotica and Sohkar to discuss this. I wonder why?


Because cowards like him can't do anything but hide behind their blog to sling mud.

Meanwhile, legitimate real life threats like are being made against Remiel Pollard are being ignored. Disgusting.

Ripard Teg should be ashamed of who he is. His alliance should be ashamed to have him.

And I'm ashamed to play the same game.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Jelani Akinyemi Affonso
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1176 - 2014-03-29 03:30:59 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
EVE Radio is quite interesting tonight.

Ripard Teg Refuses to go on the show with Erotica and Sohkar to discuss this. I wonder why?


Because cowards like him can't do anything but hide behind their blog to sling mud.

Meanwhile, legitimate real life threats like are being made against Remiel Pollard are being ignored. Disgusting.

Ripard Teg should be ashamed of who he is. His alliance should be ashamed to have him.

And I'm ashamed to play the same game.



now now now, let's be sensible.
aren't you overreacting?

Next you gnna quit too...Roll

well plz send some stuff my way..

Thanks in advance!
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#1177 - 2014-03-29 03:37:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
LIVE BROADCAST ON THIS: http://www.twitch.tv/everadiolive


This ought to be amazing tear collecting

LOL Sokhar says he should be banned too

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1178 - 2014-03-29 03:40:19 UTC
Jelani Akinyemi Affonso wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
EVE Radio is quite interesting tonight.

Ripard Teg Refuses to go on the show with Erotica and Sohkar to discuss this. I wonder why?


Because cowards like him can't do anything but hide behind their blog to sling mud.

Meanwhile, legitimate real life threats like are being made against Remiel Pollard are being ignored. Disgusting.

Ripard Teg should be ashamed of who he is. His alliance should be ashamed to have him.

And I'm ashamed to play the same game.



now now now, let's be sensible.
aren't you overreacting?

Next you gnna quit too...Roll

well plz send some stuff my way..

Thanks in advance!


If I quit, you lot win.

Instead, I'll take the Feyd route. Kill, maim, and harvest tears at an accelerated pace.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#1179 - 2014-03-29 03:43:51 UTC
awwww that wasnt even worth the link, it was only 5 mins long :p

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Mario Putzo
#1180 - 2014-03-29 03:45:51 UTC
Awaiting Ripard Tegs comments.