EVE General Discussion

Olan makes a saliant point here. For those who keep pushing for hard and fast rules - make sure you know what it is you're asking for and what the likely consequences are likely to be. If you push CCP into laying down a line then expect it to be very far from where you would want it be.

The fact is Ripard Teg stepped out of line by instigating and encouraging a "witch hunt". He wrote a blog story in which he publicly harassed an individual of this community, and shared that story with the broader MMO community. Not once did he ask Sohkar for his opinion on his experience, nor did he ask other past Bonus Room clients, this was solely his own vendetta against a player of this community who had without CCP involvement of any kind done this same thing to hundreds of people for nearly a year.

If this was truly a case of harassment and stepping outside the lines, then where was the ban, or warning about such things a A month ago when this particular incident was first shared with the community, 3 months ago, 6 months ago, a year ago?
Yet I am sure Ripard Teg is free of his involvement in this, he is freed of his harassment of both Erotica1 and Sohkar, whom was ejected from his corporation not because of "The Bonus Room" but because Ripard Teg put him into the public spotlight.

Frankly I think the most disgusting part of this is that a representative of this community took it upon himself to be judge jury and executioner, when that should solely lie with CCP, and only be implemented when the member who was wronged asks them to investigate an issue.

By all rights this scenario should have been between the Client, CCP and Erotica1, not Ripard Teg, not his Jesters Trek Blog, not the MMO community, and certainly not the numerous White Knights who mounted their horses and marched off to a 400 page threadnaught calling for heads to roll.

If anyone should be banned for this it should be Ripard Teg, and his clear button pushing that has impacted Sohkar far more than anything Erotica1 did, the game moving forward for him is now forever changed, because Ripard wanted to settle a personal vendetta.

So shouldnt this guy get banned? He's torturing Erotica by denying him the ability to play

so 2 hours of what was then a publicly published humiliation is "the run around for a little in TS" ???

what transpired today is a direct result of a group of people not knowing the difference between a game and taking things too far out of a game. The game ended once the scam was complete. everything else that followed was simply for some depraved people to get a spot of mental masturbatory pleasure. YOu can cut a shitsandwich 5 ways and the filling is still going to be ****.

Only if you leave out the part where the rest of CSM and CCP agreed to take action on this issue, and only if you ignore the fact that Ripard by himself can't issue bans to the game. And only if by torturing Erotica you mean telling the truth about him.

It's not complicated. CCP becomes aware of the sick stuff going on, and decides to end its association with an offender.

CCP cannot police everything that happens on private chat servers, and might never have learned about the Bonus Room. When the cyberbullies publish to the web, however, word gets around and eventually finds its way to the GMs. No cloak-and-dagger theories need be invented to explain some mysterious delay.

And nothing need have changed inside CCP for them to have decided not to allow EVE to be a part of the bullying.

CCP disagree and the long and short of it is that it's their rules and their decision. If you don't like that fact you need to take it up with them. Fortunately they've provided a nice button for petitioning and another nice button to unsubscribe if you _really_ don't like the result.

No he put the fire into everyone. Anyone who has actually followed this game, or been active in the community, or posts on the forums has seen not 1 but literally dozens of Bonus Room shamings. This is not a new thing, it has been going on for a year, and it has only become an issue now, after Ripard Teg took it upon himself to vilify a member of the community for his own personal gratification.

Do you think Ripard cares about Sohkar? I don't. If he did he would have asked Sohkars thoughts on the subject, he would have asked if Sohkar thought it was ok for him to write about his experience, he would have asked Sohkar if it was ok with him that he would be thrust into the community limelight.

But he didn't, he punched up at least 3 different stories about this, without once asking Sohkar's opinion, nor for his consent in rehashing a month old experience.

If you think Ripard had "the best interests of the community at heart" you are kidding yourself. The only thing Ripard cares about is page views and vindication.

CCP didn't disagree with the actions of E1 for more than a year. It only became against the rules when Ripard Teg decided it should be.

Like I said, I made someone sing for their explo frigate last year. They were pretty mad.

Am I randomly going to get banned, now? It's been ok for a year or more, is it going to stop being ok out of the blue?

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They were aware. Not only was it public, when this actual recording happened there was a whole bunch of threadnaughts then too. I'm willing to say with 100% certainty that CCP knew about this before.