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An Announcement Regarding Real Life Harassment

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#861 - 2014-03-28 22:19:13 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
ITT: A few people who seem to completely lack the faculty of comprehending what might entail "clear and extraordinary levels of real life harassment against players in the outside world."


Bullshit.

I once had someone completely flip his lid at me in local, after I bumped him once.

Do I need to be banned for that? He got equally upset as the example given here. Far more, in fact, he was using capslock and everything.

And that's the problem with subjectivity.


tl;dr: no you don't.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Salvos Rhoska
#862 - 2014-03-28 22:19:33 UTC
Jebediah Phoenix wrote:
To me that's finding out someones personal information or bombarding someone with abusive posts. It isn't asking someone to sing after they've been scammed in a game famous for its scamming.


I would agree. And that has not changed :)

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Vance Armistice
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#863 - 2014-03-28 22:19:43 UTC
Danalee wrote:
stay well clear of that line by not ransomming, scamming, awoxing, ganking or otherwise doing anything EVE is about?

I'm sure you'll say nono, that's all nicely withing the invisible lines drawn.

All good.

I give up on all you sheeple.

D.

Bear


That's life

And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stomping on a dream
But I don't let it, let it get me down
'Cause this fine old world, it keeps spinnin' around
Kaylin Drake
Profound Destiny
#864 - 2014-03-28 22:20:19 UTC
Much respect to CCP and the CSM on this. o7
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#865 - 2014-03-28 22:20:46 UTC
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
So what it all comes down to is that I can no longer gank people in WH space, because I might gank a thin skinned cry baby who goes all berserk on me and reports me to CCP... is that what's happening here now ?


Malcanis put it on about 15 pages in.

Apparently there are going to be some more unwritten and unsubstantiated rules to prevent people from using this to meta people into getting banned.

This despite their firm affirmation to subjectivity in "the line" being crossed when someone gets upset.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Jebediah Phoenix
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#866 - 2014-03-28 22:20:51 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Jebediah Phoenix wrote:
To me that's finding out someones personal information or bombarding someone with abusive posts. It isn't asking someone to sing after they've been scammed in a game famous for its scamming.


I would agree. And that has not changed :)


Except it has since that's exactly what Erotica 1 has been banned for.
Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#867 - 2014-03-28 22:21:15 UTC
Wesley Otsdarva wrote:
Thank you CCP. The threadnaught is dead (I wish i could of liked your lock post falcon) And We now know without a doubt where CCP stands.

Thank you, thank you thank you.


Who said the threadnaught is dead? Its just been moved here and we are already up to page 40 something, When I goto bed and wake up later I won't be shocked to see this one well over 100 pages also.

Where does CCP stand? The OP just sounds like a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo that says nothing.

us: Is the bonus round allowed?

normal answer: yes/no

Their answer: irrelevant stuff not answering the question 
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
Kaius Fero
#868 - 2014-03-28 22:21:27 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
So if you've clearly defined the lines, is it against the rules to ransom for a song, and if a "victim" of the ransom were to feel harassed, would that mean it's over the line? How many songs are "too many"?

If it's so clear, it will be pretty straightforward to answer right?


Do you think you're capable of detecting when you're pushing another human being over the line?

You re not human, you are a politician. You should be ....

Anselmo & The Illegals
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#869 - 2014-03-28 22:21:41 UTC
Moja Hinken wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
No I'm tired and I've had enough. If what I've already posted hasn't made the reality clear, then anything I post after this won't do it either.

I've earned my free holiday to Iceland, and you can all **** off and act like sensible human beings.
I believe I have not misbehaved. I was merely asking a question because I am genuinely interested in knowing the answer.
You should have asked sooner then. Too bad.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the CSM. How people that act like this voted against the long held HTFU nature of EVE and in favour of crying players with no self control I have no idea.


It is hilarious how butt hurt you are. I mean REALLY hilarious. He was elected CSM because he is a man of morality. He is mature enough to decide what is right and what is wrong, this has showed in his responses. The majority of the player base were able to see this and in turn voted for him. I wouldn't expect a fellow sociopath of Erotica 1 to understand this, it is clear in your posts you are just that. Nothing in the game has changed, only the same rules that have been here forever have been reinforced. So why are you so mad, really? Is it because you realize you are on the wrong side of this and are hopeless flailing around grasping at anything that may help prove your sadistic points? I think so.
How exactly am I butthurt? Just because I wan't clarification on the rules? I couldn't care less if they rule that we must spread love and peace throughout the game and drew pictures of rainbows, conversely I couldn't care less if they opted for complete anarchy, but people should be given a chance to make decisions based on rules, not just take chances at being banned any time people have a rageout.

And of course the rules have changed, Erotica 1 has been doing this for a long time, as have other scammers. To suggest nothing has changes is ludicrous.

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Prince Kobol
#870 - 2014-03-28 22:22:04 UTC
Jayem See wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Agreed. Sokhar is a racist!


That doesn't mean he doesn't deserve the same protection as everybody else, usually laws and policies apply to everyone.


On what planet?


Quite a lot of it actually.

You walk down any street in a lot of countries and just punch somebody in the face and give the excuse he is a racist, you will still be charged with a crime.


Congratulations on starting the original thread Kobol - not many people can say they kicked off that kind of shitfest!


Lol tell me about it. Never thought in a millions this would happen.

Truth is if didn't pretty damn sure somebody else would of done, I just got there first Lol
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#871 - 2014-03-28 22:22:11 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
ITT: A few people who seem to completely lack the faculty of comprehending what might entail "clear and extraordinary levels of real life harassment against players in the outside world."


Bullshit.

I once had someone completely flip his lid at me in local, after I bumped him once.

Do I need to be banned for that? He got equally upset as the example given here. Far more, in fact, he was using capslock and everything.

And that's the problem with subjectivity.


tl;dr: no you don't.


I am aware of that.

The guy I bumped isn't. It only takes one randomly slung petition to stick.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#872 - 2014-03-28 22:22:44 UTC
Coffee Rocks wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Coffee Rocks wrote:
...
*swivels in his chair*
...
*sips his coffee*
...
*reads your comments*
...
*sips his coffee*

...

*smiles*


Well now. It appears those in this game that encourage treating other players with respect, having fun, and staying classy CAN still extract tears simply by espousing those same tenements.

*looks out the window*

My, it is a bright, sunny day today.

*sighs contentedly*


Before you relax, the word you meant to use is "tenets".


Well, balls.


http://youtu.be/ir_9CX2B228

First person I thought of

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#873 - 2014-03-28 22:23:02 UTC
Danalee wrote:
stay well clear of that line by not ransomming, scamming, awoxing, ganking or otherwise doing anything EVE is about?


D.

Bear

Oh goodness, how wrong you are. It has been repeatedly reported in this thread that those have been, and will continue to be, completetly acceptable in game activities.

Are you reduced to just trolling now?
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#874 - 2014-03-28 22:23:22 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
And that's the problem with subjectivity.

Where humans, their senses, and their values are involved, everything is subjective. You better get used to that.

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays
Prince Kobol
#875 - 2014-03-28 22:23:40 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
So what it all comes down to is that I can no longer gank people in WH space, because I might gank a thin skinned cry baby who goes all berserk on me and reports me to CCP... is that what's happening here now ?


Malcanis put it on about 15 pages in.

Apparently there are going to be some more unwritten and unsubstantiated rules to prevent people from using this to meta people into getting banned.

This despite their firm affirmation to subjectivity in "the line" being crossed when someone gets upset.


Not at all, well if you lack any kind of comprehension of the English written language and are a total psychopath yeah maybe you will have some issues.
Vance Armistice
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#876 - 2014-03-28 22:23:44 UTC
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
So what it all comes down to is that I can no longer gank people in WH space, because I might gank a thin skinned cry baby who goes all berserk on me and reports me to CCP... is that what's happening here now ?


I heard that too...I think they are going to make it a thing in the next patch. No,not really I'm just messing with you.

Take a breath...in..now...out... Repeat after me: "Unless I go completely outside the bounds of acceptable human behavior I will still be able to do all the things I currently enjoy doing in this game" That help?

If you want examples of unacceptable human behavior listen to some E1 recordings.
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#877 - 2014-03-28 22:24:49 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
The guy I bumped isn't. It only takes one randomly slung petition to stick.

Then you can come on the forum with all your buddies and have your own threadnought.

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays
Salvos Rhoska
#878 - 2014-03-28 22:24:50 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
ITT: A few people who seem to completely lack the faculty of comprehending what might entail "clear and extraordinary levels of real life harassment against players in the outside world."


Bullshit.


Its a quote from the CCP statement

Apparently you are one of those who cannot comprehend it that I refer to.

You could have just put your hand up, you know.

Sorry if not treating people with clear and extraordinary levels of real life harassment is difficult for you to adjust to.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#879 - 2014-03-28 22:24:58 UTC
Myriad Blaze wrote:
Danalee wrote:

No linky than... Thought so, you are like your peers full of it.
D.

Bear

Considering that I said that I wrote such a post myself you could - for example - left click on my name under my avatar picture to the left of my post, select "View posts" in the pop-up window and go look for the link yourself. And if you continue looking through my posts you'll even find a post from November last year which was about another case that happended in the bonus room and had me saying that "I wouldn't draw that much attention to myself, if I were involved with the bonus room".

But it's easier to act silly, isn't it?


Oh, wait, you want me to go treasure hunting for something that isn't there?
Where, since it was you who found the hidden shrine of clarity and could just re-provide it?
I am being silly right... haha, what am I thinking.... Someone said I wouldn't draw that much attention to myself that must be an excerpt from the EULA of EVE online.
I'll say something silly: No rules have been broken and I have the EULA, the TOS and international law to back it up.

D.

Bear

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Coffee Rocks
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#880 - 2014-03-28 22:25:36 UTC
Jebediah Phoenix wrote:
stuff


Pls refer to my last post, especially the part that is all slanty like this.

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