EVE General Discussion

I hate when people pull the "just pixels" crap in Eve, when we know full well people make massive time, energy and money commitments to be here. If you're carefree with your pixels, grand. Don't assume everyone feels as you do.

So many cares, so many feels, so much emotion. Wow.

Typical carebear rage-drivel.
The VAST MAJORITY of bot-miner fleets are in highsec icebelt systems, because botting and ISBoxing isn't easy to do when there is a real threat of being blown up by massive fleets or NPC's that are actually capable of doing serious damage.

You don't need to worry about individual yield when you have 20 accounts that can strip an icebelt bare, in under 3 minutes.
THAT'S why almost all the botters are in highsec, and THAT is why the New Order operates there.

If you think that the New Order isn't big enough to hold their own in Nullspace, then you obviously don't understand how Null actually works.

So many cares, so many feels, so much emotion. Wow.

No I'm tired and I've had enough. If what I've already posted hasn't made the reality clear, then anything I post after this won't do it either.

I've earned my free holiday to Iceland, and you can all **** off and act like sensible human beings.

Well let me clarify. Maybe you have attachment to your pixels for the reasons you have stated, but nonetheless you are playing EVE, you know the nature of the game. You know if you contract everything you own out to someone there's a chance you won't get it back. So when that happens it is indeed unreasonable to fly off the wall like you've caught someone making death threats to your mother, whether the scammer has asked you to sing a song or not.

There were enough posts about the rules which were broken. I provided such a post myself including explantions. You (and others) just choose to ignore those posts.

Give it up. The case is already closed.

Carebear rage...I encourage you to maybe look me up a bit on EVEwho and check my killboards because I roam everywhere, shooting most everything that doesn't destroy me first. And I'll tell you what, on roams out in null I have seen fleets of Mackinaws disappear off d-scan the moment we jump into system because they are bots programmed to POS up the moment a neutral appears in local.

And no, frankly, I still don't think CODE. could hold their own in null.

Before you relax, the word you meant to use is "tenets".

Yes, he started a ****storm, but I don't think it's logical to conclude it was for personal reasons. Obviously, there are people who want to believe that -- and for us to believe it, as well -- to discredit criticism of their "content" or emergent gameplay.

I think it took a while for anything to get done because the forums are a big place and the blogosphere even bigger. Just because there's a dustup in one area doesn't mean it's universally known about. In the chat with Sohkar last night, it turned out he didn't know much about the thread or even about the CSM.

Even if Ripard knew about this a month ago (and I have no idea when he actually found out), do you seriously blame the guy for getting his ducks in a row first before coming out against it in public?

This "Oh, it's been going on forever so objecting to it now = personal vendetta" thing doesn't hold water.

The Bonus Room activities smell wrong to a number of people. I swear, when I heard those audios, the first thing that came to mind was the squeal like a pig scene in Deliverance. (Yeah, yeah, I know there are no guns or knives or sexual assault in the Bonus Room, but the vibe is similar.)

So let me get a stab at this...

Erotica1 and friends scam someone from all of his assets and his isk and made a recording of them trolling him on TeamSpeak while they are doing it. Keep in mind, the victim goes through the process of contracting all of his assets to the scammers and doing this willingly.

After an hour and 45 minutes the victim goes completely berserk and starts threatening the scammers with real life threats, he calls them names and at some point even goes as far as using racist terms such as the N word.

Mind everyone, Erotica1 and his friends stay completely cool and have done nothing out of the ordinary for ingame Eve Online standards. They are not responsible for other peoples stupidity and can not see into the future that their actions will set the victim off like this. But it is in no way their fault. Every man is responsible for what he says regardless. A scamming action is no valid reason for calling people the N word or threatening them in real life. There is no justification for any of what the victim said to them, period.

But now, from what I understand CCP faults Erotica1 and his friends for what they have done...

Is it me or did their morals drop down below zero on this ? I think the fact someone is using such language, in such a hostile way is far more offensive then what Erotica1 did. In fact, CCP nurtures scamming behavior... So who is at fault here and why ????