EVE General Discussion

You are right. I may even get some miners banned for their rl death threads in the replies to the ganks. I used to not care at all about this and not petition it. I just changed this policy, because new meta.

I really like the concept of this. On its face, it makes sense: Don't be a psychopath.

But there's a huge swath of grey area that begins to creep in. Most in-game operations use out-of-game tools, which this would seem to addressing. Most of us see singing ransoms as harmless, but what if someone has crippling stage fright? What if someone lemmings on an op and is hurt by being called a lemming? Those are far cries from the infamous bonus room, but a strict reading of "the law" would make them illegal.

You can also argue that no one has to accept a singing ransom. No one has to go on a fleet op and end up becoming a lemming. But as far as I know--please correct me if I'm wrong--no one forced the bonus room victims into that room. The moment they asked for a Full API key, I'd have told them to go f*** themselves and left. Greed kept the victim there.

I reiterate my first point: I really like the concept of this. But it seems like CCP is opening Pandora's box. At the first mention of "n00b" over external comms or the posting of a failfit on a forum, you're going to see petitions. "Harassment: Ripard Teg posted my triple-tanked RailRaven as his failfit of the week!"

Why not encourage a stronger community presence? That would certainly help situations like this occur fewer in number and lesser in severity? I'm a certified bitter vet, and maybe it's rose-colored glass, but the transformation of CCP from folks who hung out on IRC and joked with players into masters in an ivory tower who only descend to bestow Dev Blogs and Patches upon us has a strong correlation with the growing toxicity in the community. Build strong relationships, empower community leaders (there are plenty out there) to condemn these actions, and others will follow.

tl;dr: EVERYTHING WAS BETTER IN THE PAST or something.

The "it's just pixels" argument is fine to make if talking about your pixels. But if I got mine with GTC, or spending 300 hours mining, they may represent more than just "pixels" to me.

I hate when people pull the "just pixels" crap in Eve, when we know full well people make massive time, energy and money commitments to be here. If you're carefree with your pixels, grand. Don't assume everyone feels as you do.

Btw, give me your pixels, since they are "just a few pixels".

I think he might have been aiming for irony. At least I hope so, there's so much dumb around currently it's sometimes hard to tell..

You should have asked sooner then. Too bad.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the CSM. How people that act like this voted against the long held HTFU nature of EVE and in favour of crying players with no self control I have no idea.

Someone has never been to the dronelands.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the CSM. How people that act like this voted against the long held HTFU nature of EVE and in favour of crying players with no self control I have no idea.

So let me get a stab at this...