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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#461 - 2014-03-28 19:19:10 UTC
Vilar Diin wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Vilar Diin wrote:
"We need our Evil Emperors (TheMittani), our Tywin Lannister (Baltec1) and the other assorted scoundrels out there, we even need the phosphorescent green mold that accumulates under many space urinals (The New Order).

What we don't need is a Hannibal Lector mind humping his prey before eating their liver with a nice Chianti, it's not good press, it's not good for player retention and it is not good for the community.

That recording is truly awful and if it evokes such a primal response Eve players (arguably a harder bunch than average) imagine it in the hands of a politician that wants to add restrictions to gaming, mother's being asked for their cc# so a new guy can make an account etc.etc.

Our Hannibal is obviously extremely intelligent and he can change his act if he chooses to, so banning, not the best option in my opinion. He did a disgusting thing, but many things I see in this game, particularly in this thread, which seems to have attracted the worst of the worst in this game, sicken me. However, it's not my game to say what is acceptable; CCP and the community will have to decide." -Drone16

Have to agree here. I would like to think that the person "roleplaying" a truly reprehensible individual in game is not some sort of "spread the lotion on itself..." kind of guy in real life.

After all, the game is Rated:Teen, not 45 with peanut butter issues

I like the stance CCP took, keep the douchebaggery, but let everyone know there are limits that they will determine on a case by case.


They did? I read the OP and it looks more like they said "business as usual". What changed in the ToS/EULA because of this?


Never fear they have top men on it...


Who specifically?

TOP...... MEN.....

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Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#462 - 2014-03-28 19:19:29 UTC
Moja Hinken wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
The only EvE Online player that should get a ban is Ripard Teg, he started this shitstorm and harassed other players.



Yeah god forbid he raises awareness that this level of abuse is going on in the game. How dare him open one of the unseen doors that many of us have not seen. What a a hole for showing the community the type of low life sociopath scum who are attempting to run for CSM that have been abusing people most of who are not mentally stable to begin with behind the scenes for so long and getting away with it. I mean who does he think he is???


Can you stop trolling. We all know the complain is about his rhetoric and not "exposing" something.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#463 - 2014-03-28 19:19:39 UTC
Kaius Fero wrote:
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
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Here is a direct question to you as a fail politician. Why I should vote you.. or anybody else? So far your an useless nothing, the whole CSM is a joke. Dafuq are guys doing there except drinking shiat with ccp? Look at the reprocessing blog.. you were owned by the major null sec alliances and you are nothing more like a pet. So remind me.. why I need to vote for csm?

I can scam and fuk up people without your support nor ccp EULA &shiat.. really.. give me a really good reason why ANY eve players should vote!


The CSMs been a joke since the beginning lol the whole REASON for it in the first place was to go to Iceland and watchdog CCP so that another T20 couldnt happen. That was impossible to start with lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#464 - 2014-03-28 19:20:08 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
I thought the point of this game is that there are no real rules.

That its all grey area?


The point of the game is that it's also supposed to be a game.




Yeah. A game about space ships, not gaming the rules.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#465 - 2014-03-28 19:20:27 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
The only EvE Online player that should get a ban is Ripard Teg, he started this shitstorm and harassed other players.


Since Xuixien declined to answer when she similarly lambasted Ripard's blog, let's try this metaphorical question on you:


So, when you have a festering splinter, do you blame your pain receptors or do you try to remove the splinter & infection?


Here, let me give you a better analogy:

If you're playing rugby and someone tackles you and you skin your knee, who should you really be mad at: The person who tackles you or the guy who rubs salt on the wound?


Whats rugby?

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Tasha Saisima
Doomheim
#466 - 2014-03-28 19:21:09 UTC
Erotica1 should be the next Community Spotlight imo
Helena Russell Makanen
DRRUSSEL
#467 - 2014-03-28 19:21:16 UTC
Malcanis wrote:


Still, as my dad always used to say: if you're making stupid people angry, you're probably doing something right.



Bet it made you angry. Cool

"If a miner needs to go to the bathroom, for instance, I ask that they dock up first, or at the very least ask the Supreme Protector for permission to go."  -  James 315 - aka - the miner bumper

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#468 - 2014-03-28 19:21:21 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
I thought the point of this game is that there are no real rules.

That its all grey area?


The point of the game is that it's also supposed to be a game.




Yeah. A game about space ships, not gaming the rules.



No; thats THE GAME

Thats always BEEN the game. The one that bends the rules the best wins. Thats how its always been since I joined, nine years ago lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Vilar Diin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#469 - 2014-03-28 19:21:54 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Vilar Diin wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Vilar Diin wrote:
"We need our Evil Emperors (TheMittani), our Tywin Lannister (Baltec1) and the other assorted scoundrels out there, we even need the phosphorescent green mold that accumulates under many space urinals (The New Order).

What we don't need is a Hannibal Lector mind humping his prey before eating their liver with a nice Chianti, it's not good press, it's not good for player retention and it is not good for the community.

That recording is truly awful and if it evokes such a primal response Eve players (arguably a harder bunch than average) imagine it in the hands of a politician that wants to add restrictions to gaming, mother's being asked for their cc# so a new guy can make an account etc.etc.

Our Hannibal is obviously extremely intelligent and he can change his act if he chooses to, so banning, not the best option in my opinion. He did a disgusting thing, but many things I see in this game, particularly in this thread, which seems to have attracted the worst of the worst in this game, sicken me. However, it's not my game to say what is acceptable; CCP and the community will have to decide." -Drone16

Have to agree here. I would like to think that the person "roleplaying" a truly reprehensible individual in game is not some sort of "spread the lotion on itself..." kind of guy in real life.

After all, the game is Rated:Teen, not 45 with peanut butter issues

I like the stance CCP took, keep the douchebaggery, but let everyone know there are limits that they will determine on a case by case.


They did? I read the OP and it looks more like they said "business as usual". What changed in the ToS/EULA because of this?


Never fear they have top men on it...


Who specifically?

TOP...... MEN.....


Big smile
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#470 - 2014-03-28 19:22:08 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
The only EvE Online player that should get a ban is Ripard Teg, he started this shitstorm and harassed other players.


Since Xuixien declined to answer when she similarly lambasted Ripard's blog, let's try this metaphorical question on you:


So, when you have a festering splinter, do you blame your pain receptors or do you try to remove the splinter & infection?


Here, let me give you a better analogy:

If you're playing rugby and someone tackles you and you skin your knee, who should you really be mad at: The person who tackles you or the guy who rubs salt on the wound?


Whats rugby?


Rugby. Would you kindly read this Wikipedia page over TeamSpeak please?

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#471 - 2014-03-28 19:22:12 UTC
Tasha Saisima wrote:
Erotica1 should be the next Community Spotlight imo



Erotica1 for CSM Chairman!

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#472 - 2014-03-28 19:22:32 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
.

Have you actually read the OP?
Yes, I have. And it basically says "don't make people sad out of game". It explains no actual lines for what is considered tolerable and intolerable behaviour, and it offers no explanation for how they will verify third party information. They buckled to public demand, that's all this is.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#473 - 2014-03-28 19:22:45 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:

The CSMs been a joke since the beginning lol the whole REASON for it in the first place was to go to Iceland and watchdog CCP so that another T20 couldnt happen. That was impossible to start with lol


I would never disagree with that. Ever.

Make a thread about it and I'll join in. But this thread is about something else entirely.

Mr Epeen Cool
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#474 - 2014-03-28 19:24:27 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
I dont get why scamming someone stupid enough to give you all their stuff is so bad -.-

You have to be stupid enough to give them all your stuff. Thats rule number one breaking right there. Move on lol


CCP have no problem whatsover with scamming. They were extremely clear on this when we discussed the matter with them.

Suicide ganking, piracy, awoxing, scamming. spying, propaganda, lying, 0.01ing and so on are all perfectly fine. I personally went to considerable trouble to make sure that my deep concerns on those activities were addressed, and CCP's answers were 100% on the money as far as I'm concerned.

This. Is. Not. About. The. Scam.

It's about what was happening after erotica1 & co already had all the mark's ISK, assets and even his API. Once they've got all his stuff, then what happened after that wasn't about being an evil character in game. It was just about being evil.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Helena Russell Makanen
DRRUSSEL
#475 - 2014-03-28 19:24:28 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
We all know the complain is about his rhetoric and not "exposing" something.



You just can't stop trying to put your ASSumptions out there as fact can you? Its oddly fascinating if annoying. Roll

"If a miner needs to go to the bathroom, for instance, I ask that they dock up first, or at the very least ask the Supreme Protector for permission to go."  -  James 315 - aka - the miner bumper

Kaius Fero
#476 - 2014-03-28 19:25:43 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Kaius Fero wrote:
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
0

Here is a direct question to you as a fail politician. Why I should vote you.. or anybody else? So far your an useless nothing, the whole CSM is a joke. Dafuq are guys doing there except drinking shiat with ccp? Look at the reprocessing blog.. you were owned by the major null sec alliances and you are nothing more like a pet. So remind me.. why I need to vote for csm?

I can scam and fuk up people without your support nor ccp EULA &shiat.. really.. give me a really good reason why ANY eve players should vote!


The CSMs been a joke since the beginning lol the whole REASON for it in the first place was to go to Iceland and watchdog CCP so that another T20 couldnt happen. That was impossible to start with lol

Well.. I hate politicians with a passion. Good news is that in EVE I can kill them over an over.. and over. Maybe bring them in a glory hole with a lot of prizes. Malcanis.. do you like mayo?

Anselmo & The Illegals
Moja Hinken
State War Academy
Caldari State
#477 - 2014-03-28 19:25:57 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Moja Hinken wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
The only EvE Online player that should get a ban is Ripard Teg, he started this shitstorm and harassed other players.



Yeah god forbid he raises awareness that this level of abuse is going on in the game. How dare him open one of the unseen doors that many of us have not seen. What a a hole for showing the community the type of low life sociopath scum who are attempting to run for CSM that have been abusing people most of who are not mentally stable to begin with behind the scenes for so long and getting away with it. I mean who does he think he is???


Can you stop trolling. We all know the complain is about his rhetoric and not "exposing" something.



When someone disagrees with your point of view accuse them of trolling. Got it. "We all know" You are great at speaking for everyone.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#478 - 2014-03-28 19:26:05 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
The only EvE Online player that should get a ban is Ripard Teg, he started this shitstorm and harassed other players.


Since Xuixien declined to answer when she similarly lambasted Ripard's blog, let's try this metaphorical question on you:


So, when you have a festering splinter, do you blame your pain receptors or do you try to remove the splinter & infection?


Here, let me give you a better analogy:

If you're playing rugby and someone tackles you and you skin your knee, who should you really be mad at: The person who tackles you or the guy who rubs salt on the wound?


Whats rugby?


Rugby. Would you kindly read this Wikipedia page over TeamSpeak please?

GASP: Burn this witch!

Big smile

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#479 - 2014-03-28 19:26:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcanis
Mr Epeen wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:

The CSMs been a joke since the beginning lol the whole REASON for it in the first place was to go to Iceland and watchdog CCP so that another T20 couldnt happen. That was impossible to start with lol


I would never disagree with that. Ever.

Make a thread about it and I'll join in. But this thread is about something else entirely.

Mr Epeen Cool


I was extremely concerned to make sure that erotica1 got due process. You may recall that I took considerable heat for speaking up for his right to fair treatment.

After considerable dialogue with CCP's community team (that was the 2 days when we all went quiet and were "doing nothing") I came away fully satisfied that CCP's intended action was fair, justified and within their previously stated rules.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#480 - 2014-03-28 19:27:04 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
The only EvE Online player that should get a ban is Ripard Teg, he started this shitstorm and harassed other players.


Since Xuixien declined to answer when she similarly lambasted Ripard's blog, let's try this metaphorical question on you:


So, when you have a festering splinter, do you blame your pain receptors or do you try to remove the splinter & infection?


Here, let me give you a better analogy:

If you're playing rugby and someone tackles you and you skin your knee, who should you really be mad at: The person who tackles you or the guy who rubs salt on the wound?


Hmmm, it was always the water soaked magic sponge when I played. However, I wouldn't be angry with either, so long as the tackle was within the rules of the game (the ref decides that) and my trainer had at least a rudimentry understanding of first aid.Blink