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An Announcement Regarding Real Life Harassment

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Dave Stark
#441 - 2014-03-28 19:10:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Dave Stark
Malcanis wrote:
Kaius Fero wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?16342-The-Bonus-Round&p=1053833&viewfull=1#post1053833

Did anyone told you that you need a big Dislike button? A really BIG one!


The subject has come up once or twice.

Still, as my dad always used to say: if you're making stupid people angry, you're probably doing something right.


guess erotica 1 is doing something very right, then.

then again, since teg whipped up the witch hunt, maybe it's teg doing something right...
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#442 - 2014-03-28 19:10:19 UTC
The only EvE Online player that should get a ban is Ripard Teg, he started this shitstorm and harassed other players.

The Tears Must Flow
Wulfy Johnson
NorCorp Security
#443 - 2014-03-28 19:10:38 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Moja Hinken wrote:


Players like me and the large majority who have posted recently are very glad this was brought to our attention. I had no idea this kind of psychological abuse was going on.


I'm still unaware of any "psychological abuse" and have been eagerly awaiting someone to point out such to me for... days now.


I feel sorry for you. You might consider taking some terapy sessions and get an evaluation..
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#444 - 2014-03-28 19:11:58 UTC
Malcanis wrote:

Still, as my dad always used to say: if you're making stupid people angry, you're probably doing something right.


Best summary of the Bonus Round from anyone on the CSM yet.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#445 - 2014-03-28 19:12:09 UTC
I dont get why scamming someone stupid enough to give you all their stuff is so bad -.-

You have to be stupid enough to give them all your stuff. Thats rule number one breaking right there. Move on lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#446 - 2014-03-28 19:12:33 UTC
Morihei Akachi wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:


you mean, the activity that had been going on for months, and months, and months that nobody cared about didn't bring attention until some one made a sensationalised article about it on a well trafficked blog?

i am sincerely shocked.


Well since Erotica 1 has been dragging CCP's name through the mud for almost a year with Bonus Rounds, maybe some of our forum participants can name some "victims" other than Sohkar?

You know since the whole thing is like a really big deal and all, and not just this one incident.

Sure: check out https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=274543


So 2 examples out of literally hundreds of Bonus Rounds.

Cool dude, you have a rock solid case.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#447 - 2014-03-28 19:12:55 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Hell, I dont even get why this is NEWS

Go read the 380 page threadzilla for starters.


You dont know the subject enough that you can explain it on your own without posting to another thread for reference?

Im cioming into this new and trying to see whats so important about ONE scam in a game about scamming


http://podborn.com/community/psychopaths-guide-to-the-bonus-room my article on the matter. Covers everything.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#448 - 2014-03-28 19:13:40 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
The only EvE Online player that should get a ban is Ripard Teg, he started this shitstorm and harassed other players.


Since Xuixien declined to answer when she similarly lambasted Ripard's blog, let's try this metaphorical question on you:


So, when you have a festering splinter, do you blame your pain receptors or do you try to remove the splinter & infection?
Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
#449 - 2014-03-28 19:14:00 UTC
Vilar Diin wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Vilar Diin wrote:
"We need our Evil Emperors (TheMittani), our Tywin Lannister (Baltec1) and the other assorted scoundrels out there, we even need the phosphorescent green mold that accumulates under many space urinals (The New Order).

What we don't need is a Hannibal Lector mind humping his prey before eating their liver with a nice Chianti, it's not good press, it's not good for player retention and it is not good for the community.

That recording is truly awful and if it evokes such a primal response Eve players (arguably a harder bunch than average) imagine it in the hands of a politician that wants to add restrictions to gaming, mother's being asked for their cc# so a new guy can make an account etc.etc.

Our Hannibal is obviously extremely intelligent and he can change his act if he chooses to, so banning, not the best option in my opinion. He did a disgusting thing, but many things I see in this game, particularly in this thread, which seems to have attracted the worst of the worst in this game, sicken me. However, it's not my game to say what is acceptable; CCP and the community will have to decide." -Drone16

Have to agree here. I would like to think that the person "roleplaying" a truly reprehensible individual in game is not some sort of "spread the lotion on itself..." kind of guy in real life.

After all, the game is Rated:Teen, not 45 with peanut butter issues

I like the stance CCP took, keep the douchebaggery, but let everyone know there are limits that they will determine on a case by case.


They did? I read the OP and it looks more like they said "business as usual". What changed in the ToS/EULA because of this?


Never fear they have top men on it...


TOP men...
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#450 - 2014-03-28 19:14:09 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
I thought the point of this game is that there are no real rules.

That its all grey area?


The point of the game is that it's also supposed to be a game.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#451 - 2014-03-28 19:14:36 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Hell, I dont even get why this is NEWS

Go read the 380 page threadzilla for starters.


You dont know the subject enough that you can explain it on your own without posting to another thread for reference?

Im cioming into this new and trying to see whats so important about ONE scam in a game about scamming


http://podborn.com/community/psychopaths-guide-to-the-bonus-room my article on the matter. Covers everything.


I read that article. Looks like the guy getting scammed was a ******. I still dont see the issue.

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#452 - 2014-03-28 19:15:06 UTC
Kinis Deren wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
The only EvE Online player that should get a ban is Ripard Teg, he started this shitstorm and harassed other players.


Since Xuixien declined to answer when she similarly lambasted Ripard's blog, let's try this metaphorical question on you:


So, when you have a festering splinter, do you blame your pain receptors or do you try to remove the splinter & infection?


Well, we all know you don't grab a chainsaw, soak it in alcohol, light it on fire and cut the splinter out!

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#453 - 2014-03-28 19:15:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Malcanis wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
I thought the point of this game is that there are no real rules.

That its all grey area?


The point of the game is that it's also supposed to be a game.


The game being fun to only one side of the game IS about 90% of this game imo

The miner isnt having fun when he's ganked but thats not an issue in this game

THATS the main point OF this game as far as Ive EVER known EVE.

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#454 - 2014-03-28 19:16:20 UTC
Wulfy Johnson wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Moja Hinken wrote:


Players like me and the large majority who have posted recently are very glad this was brought to our attention. I had no idea this kind of psychological abuse was going on.


I'm still unaware of any "psychological abuse" and have been eagerly awaiting someone to point out such to me for... days now.


I feel sorry for you. You might consider taking some terapy sessions and get an evaluation..


Ad hominem? Okay then. Cool

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Liese Shardani
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#455 - 2014-03-28 19:16:51 UTC
voetius wrote:
Bing Bangboom wrote:
Erotica 1 reports that he cannot log into his account and believes himself to have been banned. He says he has had no communication with CCP explaining if its temporary or permanent. He also says

"I do regret that CCP did not provide me one iota of guidance as I repeatedly requested in forums regarding bonus rounds and the like. I have been handed a rather long rope (the sandbox) to metaphorically hang myself with. "

So, it may be that everyone is now safe from having someone talk them into giving them their Eve stuff and then making fun of them when they do it. Eve is saved.

BBB


The problem with these sort of issues is that people will spin them whatever way suits their prejudices as seen in the recent threadnaught.

In the case of the quote above, if CCP had stepped in and laid down the law then there could quite well have been more outrage for "interfering in the sandbox, blah blah".

It's a no-win situation in many ways.
Right, and some people have interpreted Sohkar's presence in TS last night as some kind of endorsement of what happened to him. I had a feeling they'd do that. Maybe they actually *have* learned something from this, but admitting it here...well, that might be a stretch, given the deeply entrenched positions.

I was glad to see him on TS, but not for those reasons. The only knowledge most of us have of Sohkar is that ghastly two-hour meltdown, and I for one was relieved to see him not only unharmed but holding his own against the very people who put him through that. He didn't kiss their asses for one second, and I was smiling about that.
Moja Hinken
State War Academy
Caldari State
#456 - 2014-03-28 19:17:29 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
The only EvE Online player that should get a ban is Ripard Teg, he started this shitstorm and harassed other players.



Yeah god forbid he raises awareness that this level of abuse is going on in the game. How dare him open one of the unseen doors that many of us have not seen. What a a hole for showing the community the type of low life sociopath scum who are attempting to run for CSM that have been abusing people most of who are not mentally stable to begin with behind the scenes for so long and getting away with it. I mean who does he think he is???
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#457 - 2014-03-28 19:17:38 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
The only EvE Online player that should get a ban is Ripard Teg, he started this shitstorm and harassed other players.


Since Xuixien declined to answer when she similarly lambasted Ripard's blog, let's try this metaphorical question on you:


So, when you have a festering splinter, do you blame your pain receptors or do you try to remove the splinter & infection?


Well, we all know you don't grab a chainsaw, soak it in alcohol, light it on fire and cut the splinter out!


I LOL'd, seriously. Big smile
Kaius Fero
#458 - 2014-03-28 19:17:56 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
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Here is a direct question to you as a fail politician. Why I should vote you.. or anybody else? So far your an useless nothing, the whole CSM is a joke. Dafuq are guys doing there except drinking shiat with ccp? Look at the reprocessing blog.. you were owned by the major null sec alliances and you are nothing more like a pet. So remind me.. why I need to vote for csm?

I can scam and fuk up people without your support nor ccp EULA &shiat.. really.. give me a really good reason why ANY eve players should vote!

Anselmo & The Illegals
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#459 - 2014-03-28 19:18:28 UTC
Kinis Deren wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
The only EvE Online player that should get a ban is Ripard Teg, he started this shitstorm and harassed other players.


Since Xuixien declined to answer when she similarly lambasted Ripard's blog, let's try this metaphorical question on you:


So, when you have a festering splinter, do you blame your pain receptors or do you try to remove the splinter & infection?


Here, let me give you a better analogy:

If you're playing rugby and someone tackles you and you skin your knee, who should you really be mad at: The person who tackles you or the guy who rubs salt on the wound?

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#460 - 2014-03-28 19:18:40 UTC
Liese Shardani wrote:
voetius wrote:
Bing Bangboom wrote:
Erotica 1 reports that he cannot log into his account and believes himself to have been banned. He says he has had no communication with CCP explaining if its temporary or permanent. He also says

"I do regret that CCP did not provide me one iota of guidance as I repeatedly requested in forums regarding bonus rounds and the like. I have been handed a rather long rope (the sandbox) to metaphorically hang myself with. "

So, it may be that everyone is now safe from having someone talk them into giving them their Eve stuff and then making fun of them when they do it. Eve is saved.

BBB


The problem with these sort of issues is that people will spin them whatever way suits their prejudices as seen in the recent threadnaught.

In the case of the quote above, if CCP had stepped in and laid down the law then there could quite well have been more outrage for "interfering in the sandbox, blah blah".

It's a no-win situation in many ways.
Right, and some people have interpreted Sohkar's presence in TS last night as some kind of endorsement of what happened to him. I had a feeling they'd do that. Maybe they actually *have* learned something from this, but admitting it here...well, that might be a stretch, given the deeply entrenched positions.

I was glad to see him on TS, but not for those reasons. The only knowledge most of us have of Sohkar is that ghastly two-hour meltdown, and I for one was relieved to see him not only unharmed but holding his own against the very people who put him through that. He didn't kiss their asses for one second, and I was smiling about that.


We've all learned that CCP is willing to bend to uninformed public pressure.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.