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An Announcement Regarding Real Life Harassment

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Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#401 - 2014-03-28 18:40:01 UTC
CCP is very skilled at typing a lot of words to say nothing at all.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Moja Hinken
State War Academy
Caldari State
#402 - 2014-03-28 18:40:40 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Moja Hinken wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd

So eve supports this and is in favor of outcomes like this one ^^??? Hell yeah time to dish out death like the grim reaper.


except in real life you can't just "block" some one, like you can online. there are pretty much 0 parallels between her story, and what is being discussed here.



Oh but there is. Any type of emotional trama that is caused wether it be temporary or long term harrassment can cause great harm to the parties who are victim especially if those victims are already mentally disturbed to begin with. But hey man i'm on your side im all about manipulating the weak and causing long term damage. Lets dish out the psycological abuse together bro!!
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#403 - 2014-03-28 18:40:44 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Moja Hinken wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd

So eve supports this and is in favor of outcomes like this one ^^??? Hell yeah time to dish out death like the grim reaper.


except in real life you can't just "block" some one, like you can online. there are pretty much 0 parallels between her story, and what is being discussed here.


What? You mean Erotica 1 DIDN'T physically assault Sohkar?!

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Kaius Fero
#404 - 2014-03-28 18:42:33 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?16342-The-Bonus-Round&p=1053833&viewfull=1#post1053833

Did anyone told you that you need a big Dislike button? A really BIG one!

Anselmo & The Illegals
Dave Stark
#405 - 2014-03-28 18:43:30 UTC
Moja Hinken wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Moja Hinken wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd

So eve supports this and is in favor of outcomes like this one ^^??? Hell yeah time to dish out death like the grim reaper.


except in real life you can't just "block" some one, like you can online. there are pretty much 0 parallels between her story, and what is being discussed here.



Oh but there is. Any type of emotional trama that is caused wether it be temporary or long term harrassment can cause great harm to the parties who are victim especially if those victims are already mentally disturbed to begin with. But hey man i'm on your side im all about manipulating the weak and causing long term damage. Lets dish out the psycological abuse together bro!!


if providing you with english lessons were abuse, i would gladly encourage that type of abuse.
voetius
Grundrisse
#406 - 2014-03-28 18:43:58 UTC
Bing Bangboom wrote:
Erotica 1 reports that he cannot log into his account and believes himself to have been banned. He says he has had no communication with CCP explaining if its temporary or permanent. He also says

"I do regret that CCP did not provide me one iota of guidance as I repeatedly requested in forums regarding bonus rounds and the like. I have been handed a rather long rope (the sandbox) to metaphorically hang myself with. "

So, it may be that everyone is now safe from having someone talk them into giving them their Eve stuff and then making fun of them when they do it. Eve is saved.

BBB


The problem with these sort of issues is that people will spin them whatever way suits their prejudices as seen in the recent threadnaught.

In the case of the quote above, if CCP had stepped in and laid down the law then there could quite well have been more outrage for "interfering in the sandbox, blah blah".

It's a no-win situation in many ways.
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#407 - 2014-03-28 18:45:24 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Kristalll wrote:

Except being on the CSM means he has been selected by the PLAYERS to represent them and accepted by CCP to help represent CCP to the Public.


I believe Ripard Teg has been an outstanding CSM member and I feel the community owes him a debt of gratitude for being our moral conscience in this matter. I for one thank him whole heartedly for bringing the somewhat more questionable side of EVE to my attention. In this respect he has performed brilliantly as a representative I voted for.

I also have a great deal of respect for the other members of the CSM for largely withholding their opinions to allow the player base to debate the matter in the original thread.


Maybe if he didn't drag CCP through the mud and call this situation Torture! Hell, he never even talked to the "victim".


I'm of the humble opinion it was your Bonus Room antics that "dragged CCP through the mud", as you put it, by association.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#408 - 2014-03-28 18:47:50 UTC
Kinis Deren wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Kristalll wrote:

Except being on the CSM means he has been selected by the PLAYERS to represent them and accepted by CCP to help represent CCP to the Public.


I believe Ripard Teg has been an outstanding CSM member and I feel the community owes him a debt of gratitude for being our moral conscience in this matter. I for one thank him whole heartedly for bringing the somewhat more questionable side of EVE to my attention. In this respect he has performed brilliantly as a representative I voted for.

I also have a great deal of respect for the other members of the CSM for largely withholding their opinions to allow the player base to debate the matter in the original thread.


Maybe if he didn't drag CCP through the mud and call this situation Torture! Hell, he never even talked to the "victim".


I'm of the humble opinion it was your Bonus Room antics that "dragged CCP through the mud", as you put it, by association.


Except the Bonus Room never brought attention to CCP...

It was Ripard Teg saying "LOOK AT THE TORTURE THAT GOES ON IN EVE ONLINE AND CCP DOES NOTHING".

I mean I guess that's hard for you to understand though.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Dave Stark
#409 - 2014-03-28 18:49:45 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Kristalll wrote:

Except being on the CSM means he has been selected by the PLAYERS to represent them and accepted by CCP to help represent CCP to the Public.


I believe Ripard Teg has been an outstanding CSM member and I feel the community owes him a debt of gratitude for being our moral conscience in this matter. I for one thank him whole heartedly for bringing the somewhat more questionable side of EVE to my attention. In this respect he has performed brilliantly as a representative I voted for.

I also have a great deal of respect for the other members of the CSM for largely withholding their opinions to allow the player base to debate the matter in the original thread.


Maybe if he didn't drag CCP through the mud and call this situation Torture! Hell, he never even talked to the "victim".


I'm of the humble opinion it was your Bonus Room antics that "dragged CCP through the mud", as you put it, by association.


Except the Bonus Room never brought attention to CCP...

It was Ripard Teg saying "LOOK AT THE TORTURE THAT GOES ON IN EVE ONLINE AND CCP DOES NOTHING".

I mean I guess that's hard for you to understand though.


you mean, the activity that had been going on for months, and months, and months that nobody cared about didn't bring attention until some one made a sensationalised article about it on a well trafficked blog?

i am sincerely shocked.
Kaius Fero
#410 - 2014-03-28 18:50:09 UTC
voetius wrote:
Bing Bangboom wrote:
Erotica 1 reports that he cannot log into his account and believes himself to have been banned. He says he has had no communication with CCP explaining if its temporary or permanent. He also says

"I do regret that CCP did not provide me one iota of guidance as I repeatedly requested in forums regarding bonus rounds and the like. I have been handed a rather long rope (the sandbox) to metaphorically hang myself with. "

So, it may be that everyone is now safe from having someone talk them into giving them their Eve stuff and then making fun of them when they do it. Eve is saved.

BBB


The problem with these sort of issues is that people will spin them whatever way suits their prejudices as seen in the recent threadnaught.

In the case of the quote above, if CCP had stepped in and laid down the law then there could quite well have been more outrage for "interfering in the sandbox, blah blah".

It's a no-win situation in many ways.

Yeah right.. CCP banned Mittani for a month, then burn Jita started. Are you serious.. these bans are only for the press. We are free to fuk up anybody we want.. only rule is to be outside of game ;) We are safe now :)

Anselmo & The Illegals
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#411 - 2014-03-28 18:51:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
CCP Falcon wrote:


Above all, lets keep it civil and constructive.



Thats sarcastic, right?

OK, literally just started reading about this last night, what heppened? As far as Ive read, some stupid ass got scammed, then got scammed more...

Um its EVE.

I dont understand the issue

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#412 - 2014-03-28 18:53:43 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:


i am sincerely shocked.


Don't worry, you'll get over it Blink
Moja Hinken
State War Academy
Caldari State
#413 - 2014-03-28 18:54:16 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Kristalll wrote:

Except being on the CSM means he has been selected by the PLAYERS to represent them and accepted by CCP to help represent CCP to the Public.


I believe Ripard Teg has been an outstanding CSM member and I feel the community owes him a debt of gratitude for being our moral conscience in this matter. I for one thank him whole heartedly for bringing the somewhat more questionable side of EVE to my attention. In this respect he has performed brilliantly as a representative I voted for.

I also have a great deal of respect for the other members of the CSM for largely withholding their opinions to allow the player base to debate the matter in the original thread.


Maybe if he didn't drag CCP through the mud and call this situation Torture! Hell, he never even talked to the "victim".


I'm of the humble opinion it was your Bonus Room antics that "dragged CCP through the mud", as you put it, by association.


Except the Bonus Room never brought attention to CCP...

It was Ripard Teg saying "LOOK AT THE TORTURE THAT GOES ON IN EVE ONLINE AND CCP DOES NOTHING".

I mean I guess that's hard for you to understand though.


Players like me and the large majority who have posted recently are very glad this was brought to our attention. I had no idea this kind of psychological abuse was going on.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#414 - 2014-03-28 18:54:32 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:


you mean, the activity that had been going on for months, and months, and months that nobody cared about didn't bring attention until some one made a sensationalised article about it on a well trafficked blog?

i am sincerely shocked.


Well since Erotica 1 has been dragging CCP's name through the mud for almost a year with Bonus Rounds, maybe some of our forum participants can name some "victims" other than Sohkar?

You know since the whole thing is like a really big deal and all, and not just this one incident.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#415 - 2014-03-28 18:55:39 UTC
Moja Hinken wrote:


Players like me and the large majority who have posted recently are very glad this was brought to our attention. I had no idea this kind of psychological abuse was going on.


I'm still unaware of any "psychological abuse" and have been eagerly awaiting someone to point out such to me for... days now.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#416 - 2014-03-28 18:55:50 UTC
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Then you should definitely do something about it. Like get in a better alliance, or make Spacemonkeys not terrible at everything.
Really? Why should my actions be to deal with the consequences of my choices? Surely the new ruling is hat you aren;t allowed to speak to me negatively about my choices instead.

Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
All I see is a trail of tears friend. A trail of sweet, delicious tears.
Then you should look harder. What I'm going against here is an attack on freedom of speech with incredibly loose rulings leaving a huge margin for error brought on by the rage of the public over a single instance instead of rational decision making based on the overall situation.

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Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#417 - 2014-03-28 18:56:44 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Kristalll wrote:

Except being on the CSM means he has been selected by the PLAYERS to represent them and accepted by CCP to help represent CCP to the Public.


I believe Ripard Teg has been an outstanding CSM member and I feel the community owes him a debt of gratitude for being our moral conscience in this matter. I for one thank him whole heartedly for bringing the somewhat more questionable side of EVE to my attention. In this respect he has performed brilliantly as a representative I voted for.

I also have a great deal of respect for the other members of the CSM for largely withholding their opinions to allow the player base to debate the matter in the original thread.


Maybe if he didn't drag CCP through the mud and call this situation Torture! Hell, he never even talked to the "victim".


I'm of the humble opinion it was your Bonus Room antics that "dragged CCP through the mud", as you put it, by association.


Except the Bonus Room never brought attention to CCP...

It was Ripard Teg saying "LOOK AT THE TORTURE THAT GOES ON IN EVE ONLINE AND CCP DOES NOTHING".

I mean I guess that's hard for you to understand though.


Exactly. CCP knew about this the minute the recording hit Miner Bumping. If they really thought this broke any rules, ero's account would have been actioned then and not now. The only reason they are doing so now is some angry kid with a blog is effectively holding them hostage...
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#418 - 2014-03-28 18:57:06 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
Kinis Deren wrote:
Kristalll wrote:

Except being on the CSM means he has been selected by the PLAYERS to represent them and accepted by CCP to help represent CCP to the Public.


I believe Ripard Teg has been an outstanding CSM member and I feel the community owes him a debt of gratitude for being our moral conscience in this matter. I for one thank him whole heartedly for bringing the somewhat more questionable side of EVE to my attention. In this respect he has performed brilliantly as a representative I voted for.

I also have a great deal of respect for the other members of the CSM for largely withholding their opinions to allow the player base to debate the matter in the original thread.


Maybe if he didn't drag CCP through the mud and call this situation Torture! Hell, he never even talked to the "victim".


I'm of the humble opinion it was your Bonus Room antics that "dragged CCP through the mud", as you put it, by association.


Except the Bonus Room never brought attention to CCP...

It was Ripard Teg saying "LOOK AT THE TORTURE THAT GOES ON IN EVE ONLINE AND CCP DOES NOTHING".

I mean I guess that's hard for you to understand though.


So, when you have a festering splinter, do you blame your pain receptors or try to remove the splinter & infection?
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#419 - 2014-03-28 18:57:59 UTC
Hell, I dont even get why this is NEWS

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#420 - 2014-03-28 18:58:05 UTC
Asia Leigh wrote:


Exactly. CCP knew about this the minute the recording hit Miner Bumping. If they really thought this broke any rules, ero's account would have been actioned then and not now. The only reason they are doing so now is some angry kid with a blog is effectively holding them hostage...


It's almost as if he's holding CCP in a state of discomfort in order to get what he wants.

Almost like.

Dare I say it?

Psychological abuse?!

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist