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Pay subs to Red Alliance and friends now?

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Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2011-09-10 23:26:39 UTC
It is pretty funny to see people immediately say RMT and BOTS when talking about RA/WN/RDN/xXDeathXx/solar

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Puppet Mas'ter
The Merchants of War
#22 - 2011-09-10 23:43:27 UTC
Fishsticks Fred wrote:
Remember BoB? They had a large portion of nullsec and said many times that their goal was to control the whole thing, but no one could do anything about it. Then the NC controlled a lot of it and everyone thought they were unkillable. They're both gone now. I doubt the Russians will lose all their space, but I bet in a year they won't be controlling as much as they do now.


Yeah they also had devs workin for them
(cause that one time they got caught was the only time it happened amirite?)

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Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2011-09-11 00:27:02 UTC
Winter is coming.

There will be vodka flavored tears.

It will be glorious.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Epiphaniess
Verboten Technologies
#24 - 2011-09-11 00:43:48 UTC
Cregg Neir wrote:
Just wondering whether we should start to pay subscriptions directly to Red Alliance and their allies now? Since CCP has basically handed them the game. How much more of null do they get to conrol before CCP does something about this?


It is not CCP's place to do something to an alliance for being successful, what is this socialism in space punish success, reward failure?

If you don't like how the Red Alliance is ruining your game play. Then you there are few things you can do.

1.Move, go someplace very far away from where they are. Or leave 0.0 altogether sounds like you would be more at home in High Sec anyways. This is a very successful strategy that many have used hence the high population in High Sec.

2.Or you could, learn how to form your own alliance with a large group of dedicated players willing to fight. Then learn how to PvP, and be successful in larger Alliance wars, and fleet battles. This is another successful strategy that some Alliances have been successful at implementing.

3.Or you could infiltrate their Alliance, work your way up the ranks, then once you make it to director level within the Alliance and have access to everything. Steal everything you want and hit the “OFF” button while everyone is sleeping. This has been successful a few times in the past and has also been of much controversy and many laughs.

And those are just three of the many ways you can do something. With out crying to CCP.

CCP is not the central government this is a not an nanny state here to wipe your tears away, kiss your cheek, telling you everything will be alright, with hugs.
Cregg Neir
Doomheim
#25 - 2011-09-11 07:28:49 UTC
Poor little apologists. I'm just asking a question that a lot of other people are asking in my circle of friends. CCP wants people to move to null sec and Red Alliance et al chase them out again.

Rumors about RMT / botting are pretty much universal, and where there's smoke there's usually fire.

And yes, I'm a total crybaby, boohoo. Doesn't mean it's healthy for the game to have one Alliance destroying small corps and small alliances every time they try to move to null sec. How much space does one set of players need?
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2011-09-11 07:33:21 UTC
Cregg Neir wrote:
Poor little apologists. I'm just asking a question that a lot of other people are asking in my circle of friends. CCP wants people to move to null sec and Red Alliance et al chase them out again.
You can tell the regulars in NPC corp chat that RA and XxDeathxX have brought more people and small corps into nullsec then anyone. As renters.
Cregg Neir
Doomheim
#27 - 2011-09-11 07:34:39 UTC
And actually CCP is the central government, and are currently studying how to fix null sec. Fixing it means it's broken, right? The last nerf to null sec was to shake up Alliances that had stopped fighting over territory. Who's going to be fighting when there's nobody left but RA?

And how do you call them or anybody else better players when it's all about the Super Carrier blob? What's the strategy in that, other than lining up your big fleets once a week and sweeping away a few more systems?

The game favors aggressors, not defenders. That's CCP's choice.

Sure, I hope winter is really coming and that the RA bloc gets a nice comeuppance. But if big blocks are always going to rule null sec, then it's never going to function worth a crap.

So now I'll cry some for you, so you can have something to talk about, since you can't actually carry on a discussion. Boo hoo boo hoo boo hoo.
Cregg Neir
Doomheim
#28 - 2011-09-11 07:36:21 UTC
(You can tell the regulars in NPC corp chat that RA and XxDeathxX have brought more people and small corps into nullsec then anyone. As renters.)

I don't want to be a serf. I want a fair shot at holding my own space. You can lick RA butt if you like, of course.

Prince Kobol
#29 - 2011-09-11 07:48:57 UTC
What you need to do is create a massive fleets of Bots, sell isk to RMT Sites for RL Money and make sure you give a % of your profit to CCP Twisted
Phenethylamine
Nex quod Principatus
#30 - 2011-09-11 07:51:44 UTC
2 isk says OP is an alt from Red Alliance and is fishing for delicious tears.
Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#31 - 2011-09-11 08:00:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Acac Sunflyier
In the course of human events, when it becomes clear that a force has risen that dominates all free space and people alike, the community must rise and unite against that enemy. The people must cast off the shackles of oppression and retake, with force, what rightfully belongs to them. A power has risen from the East. No longer can the forces of power turn a blind eye to this menace. All must unite against the oppressors and push back their tyranny and liberate the homes they now control.

I propose a new coalition. This coalition will consist of friends and enemies alike. Let the petty squabbles of the past be put on hold. Let us face these oppressive reds that threaten us all. Let us become friends until this menace is removed

I have seen how the Reds manage what they control. People work for hours a day to make a decent living and they must pay tribute to their oppressors for the opportunity. This slave labor must come to an end. A day's labor should yield a visible and measured result that benefits the people who live there. A day's effort should not be unduly taxed with the fruits being consumed by the dogs of war. Being used further their oppressive efforts.

Let us, the free people, work together, or face extinction. The eastern threat will undo the economy that we, the people, have spent years building. So let us suspend these petty squabbles and work together to fight the Russians, where ever they are. Let us take back what belongs to us. Let us liberate all the regions under their control! And, let us build a brighter tomorrow.




Note: Please read this with a John Kennedy tone.
El'Niaga
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2011-09-11 08:08:13 UTC
Ladie Scarlet wrote:
Winter is coming.

There will be vodka flavored tears.

It will be glorious.


Over the years from what I've seen, I'd put my money on the Russians adapting much faster than the Western Europeans, Canadians, or Americans no matter what the change is.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2011-09-11 08:17:49 UTC
El'Niaga wrote:


Over the years from what I've seen, I'd put my money on the Russians adapting much faster than the Western Europeans, Canadians, or Americans no matter what the change is.

Nah...they've relied on their supercap blob for too long. The shock of it not being the instant I-Win button will cause a bunch of "elite pvp" alliances to fold. It will be fun to watch.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Pantheon Lea
Farmer Boyz
#34 - 2011-09-11 08:19:14 UTC
El'Niaga wrote:
Over the years from what I've seen, I'd put my money on the Russians adapting much faster than the Western Europeans, Canadians, or Americans no matter what the change is.


This...
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#35 - 2011-09-11 08:27:11 UTC
I remember a while back that people were saying the same thing about the Goons.

And before that, they said it about BoB.

And before that they said it about the Curse Alliance.

So nothing much changes, only the names.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#36 - 2011-09-11 08:29:00 UTC
Ladie Scarlet wrote:
Winter is coming.

There will be vodka flavored tears.

It will be glorious.


History tells us that attacking the Russians in winter isn't such a good idea.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2011-09-11 08:38:44 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:

History tells us that attacking the Russians in winter isn't such a good idea.

If the Germans had had access to the nerf bat things might have turned out differently.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Oglyn
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2011-09-11 09:25:48 UTC
Ladie Scarlet wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:

History tells us that attacking the Russians in winter isn't such a good idea.

If the Germans had had access to the nerf bat things might have turned out differently.



Okay,we get it. You are mad that the Reds have more friends than you and are better at building and flying bigger spaceships than you.

We understand that.

We understand the pressure your mighty leader is under to ensure the supercap nerf goes ahead as soon as possible and isn't sidetracked - his duty to you to ensure CCP focuses resources on it.

We get that.


But please, for the love of god, stop putting your ugly avatar on these forums.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2011-09-11 10:05:22 UTC
Oglyn wrote:
But please, for the love of god, stop putting your ugly avatar on these forums.

When supercaps aren't overpowered any longer I will stop posting with this character. Deal?

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Oglyn
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2011-09-11 10:51:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Oglyn
Ladie Scarlet wrote:
Oglyn wrote:
But please, for the love of god, stop putting your ugly avatar on these forums.

When supercaps aren't overpowered any longer I will stop posting with this character. Deal?


I don't think it is fair on the community as a whole that we have to put up with your ugly mug just because your alliance is unable to build and field these *overpowered* ships.

If they are so great, why not use them?

I'll tell you why, because you are a whiny alliance that knows that it can't compete on an equal footing with everyone else. Your leader has to use his position in the CSM to save your pathetic behinds from other players who are just clearly better at Eve than you. When he hears the news that the supercarrier nerf that he has *promised* his little bees may be delayed because of resource allocation he does an about face. His prior position of supporting Incarna is thrown out of the window, exchanged by *outrage* that CCP management won't allocate resources to his pet nerf (of course, being the political wizard that he thinks he is, he does it in the guise of "the greater good of the community").

But you know what? None of that annoys me as much as your face.