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Barton Breau
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-03-27 18:58:43 UTC
Hi,

i found myself a comfy 0.5 system, with a comfy l4 security agent giving mostly serpentis missions with a comfy corp where i can sell the lp for a good price.

I guess my question is, since i seem to be meeting only a few pople in the system, am i doing something wrong?

Should i be running missions against serpentis and mordu, or do for example angel / blood raiders give significantly more rewards?

Are there differences between pirates outside the angel having a secret room and the serpentis not in the extravaganza as far as loot/bounty go ?
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-03-27 21:02:03 UTC
Barton Breau wrote:
Hi,

i found myself a comfy 0.5 system, with a comfy l4 security agent giving mostly serpentis missions with a comfy corp where i can sell the lp for a good price.

I guess my question is, since i seem to be meeting only a few pople in the system, am i doing something wrong?

not rly, mission hubs currently r soe l4 and where u have multiple l4 agents normaly. But even then new eden is large
Barton Breau wrote:
Should i be running missions against serpentis and mordu, or do for example angel / blood raiders give significantly more rewards?

Serpentis and Guristas have the most annoying ewar in game but else it depends more on the missions u get. And i havent seen a difference in lp and isk output between compareable missions and compareable agents.
Barton Breau wrote:

Are there differences between pirates outside the angel having a secret room and the serpentis not in the extravaganza as far as loot/bounty go ?

Ewar as mentioned (Sansha has Tracking Disruption, Blood has Neuts), different salvage and Damage Types for tank and what they do.
Illiar D'Anaari
Lassandar
#3 - 2014-03-27 23:25:43 UTC
Drones and Gurista salvage is horrible. That aside, all factions are as rewarding to fight in terms of L4s. The ewar was mentioned by someone else.

The big thing I believe is that if there's only 1 agent in your system, people with Marauders/pirate/faction BS will not be there (for the most part) because they can spam missions really fast, and a single agent might offer more than 1 poor mission in a row, which would mean standing losses due to multiple declines in a 4h window.
Vinyl 41
AdVictis
#4 - 2014-03-28 09:38:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Vinyl 41
the big question here is do you want to run missions normaly or do you want to blitz those
if option A your fine with a nice coozy 0.5 system that has just 1 agent
if option B get the hell out of there since you want to have a plentyfora of agents to pick just the juicy missions
and about the loot serps have a so so loot its mostly mission dependant ( the more bs and elite ships the better )
Matthew Birkin
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#5 - 2014-03-28 15:35:47 UTC
Barton Breau wrote:
Hi,

i found myself a comfy 0.5 system, with a comfy l4 security agent giving mostly serpentis missions with a comfy corp where i can sell the lp for a good price.

I guess my question is, since i seem to be meeting only a few pople in the system, am i doing something wrong?

Should i be running missions against serpentis and mordu, or do for example angel / blood raiders give significantly more rewards?

Are there differences between pirates outside the angel having a secret room and the serpentis not in the extravaganza as far as loot/bounty go ?


As a pretty experienced mission runner, I can help you with this. It all depends on what the mission is, of course. But also your play style. It also depends on your ship! Nightmares and Macherials would be great for Blood Raider and Sansha missions, while a Vindicator or a Tengu would be great for Gurista's and Serpentis. Keep in mind the Macherial applies very well across the board. If you're blitzing, Serpentis and Gurista's would be preferable to other factions. Mercenaries tend to have the best loot, followed by Angels, Serpentis, Guristas, and Sansha. Don't forget about the occasional Gone Berserk as well, that's a great mission to loot and clear. Overall, I recommend you blitz missions in a Tengu if you're fighting Gurista's and/or Serpentis, a Macherial or Vindicator for everything else. Blitzing is only useful if you can do lots of DPS quickly and get in and out fairly rapidly, or you won't be making more than if you salvaged. If you can't blitz 4 or more missions an hour, salvage. Cool

Uwotm8
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#6 - 2014-03-28 16:49:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Estella Osoka
Mission payouts are dependent on skills and the systems security rating. A .5 system will pay out more than a 1.0 system. Social to 5, Security Connections to 5, and Negotiation to 5 will give you max payouts for the system you are running security missions out of.

Example: Let's say Gone Beserk pays out 850k ISK, 3000LP when running it in a 1.0 system with max social skills. In a .5 system you will see a significant increase. Instead of the payout above, you will now see about a 1mil isk payout and 4500LP payout. The bonus reward also increases.

Note: Numbers above are not actual figures. Just showing how there will be a difference.
Barton Breau
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-03-28 17:04:37 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
Mission payouts are dependent on skills and the systems security rating. A .5 system will pay out more than a 1.0 system. Social to 5, Security Connections to 5, and Negotiation to 5 will give you max payouts for the system you are running security missions out of.

Example: Let's say Gone Beserk pays out 850k ISK, 3000LP when running it in a 1.0 system with max social skills. In a .5 system you will see a significant increase. Instead of the payout above, you will now see about a 1mil isk payout and 4500LP payout. The bonus reward also increases.

Note: Numbers above are not actual figures. Just showing how there will be a difference.


Dont forget to mention caps.

Anyways, i just wanted to know if there is a significant difference in payouts (of all kind) between pirate factions, i already am missioning in a 0.5 system for the reasons you mention, but thanks :)
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-03-28 17:33:55 UTC
Barton Breau wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
Mission payouts are dependent on skills and the systems security rating. A .5 system will pay out more than a 1.0 system. Social to 5, Security Connections to 5, and Negotiation to 5 will give you max payouts for the system you are running security missions out of.

Example: Let's say Gone Beserk pays out 850k ISK, 3000LP when running it in a 1.0 system with max social skills. In a .5 system you will see a significant increase. Instead of the payout above, you will now see about a 1mil isk payout and 4500LP payout. The bonus reward also increases.

Note: Numbers above are not actual figures. Just showing how there will be a difference.


Dont forget to mention caps.

Anyways, i just wanted to know if there is a significant difference in payouts (of all kind) between pirate factions, i already am missioning in a 0.5 system for the reasons you mention, but thanks :)


i think we answered your question ^^
loot and salvage is different
Ewar.
Serpentis = sensor damps
Angel = target painting
guristas = ecm
Drones = cant remember
Sansha = tracking disruptor
Blood Raider = nos/neut